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      Evidence The British Forced ****** To Continue WWII

      The ******-Hess Deception

      By Martin Allen



      I'm stunned!!

      Tonight, at 8:15pm on NTV in the show 'TECHNIK & TRENDS' we were shown an Interview with the English Historian MARTIN ALLEN, in which he very clearly stated that according to documents he found in the British Archives, Rudolf Hess flew to Gt Britain with ******'s knowledge and with a 7 Point peace plan from ****** in his pocket.

      ******'s Peace Plan included:

      a) Withdrawal of all German Troops from Poland, Belgium, France & Holland.

      b) Reimbursement for war damage to those countries

      c) Total German disarmament

      d) Destruction of all German war weaponry.

      This offer threw the British Government under Churchill who had ready made plans to force Germany into a war into a turmoil and the British knew they couldn't accept ******'s offer, so they threw Hess into Prison and tossed away the key. What also came out of the interview was the fact that the British were not worried about Nazi 'brutality' at all but the extremely successful model of government the Germans (******) had devised.

      Martin Allen has written all this in his latest book.
      And THIS on German TV....heads will roll!!




      The ******-Hess Deception


      By Martin Allen

      Synopsis (Amazon.co.uk)



      This text aims to shed light on discoveries which claim to reveal the truth about Rudolph Hess' solo flight to Britain in May 1941 and explain the British government's 60-year-long silence as to what the Hess mission was all about. The mystery of the deputy Fuhrer's flight and subsequent silence has led to a seemingly endless flow of books speculating as to his motives. In 2001 (the 60th anniversary of the flight) more books appeared. But the crucial pieces of evidence which could prove that the British government were playing a game - the outcome of which would have far-reaching effects on the course of the war - have not been found. This book claims to have this very information.

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      The Man Who Knew Too Much

      Reviewer: Thomas Dunskus from F-33760 Faleyras

      Martin Allen's book "The ******/Hess Deception" deals with the fate of Rudolf Hess who had been, at one time, ******'s deputy and who, in his day, carried the epithet "the conscience of the party". He was condemned to life imprisonment and served time for half a century until he was found hanged in the prison at Spandau whose only remaining prisoner he then was.

      He had left Germany in May, 1941, under mysterious circumstances, and was held essentially incommunicado ever after. At that time, the Nazis had instituted a number of antisemitic laws, they had instigated or at least tolerated a pogrom, and were following an expansionist and aggressive policy, but with some hindsight, one wonders why this man had to be shut up for the rest of his life, whereas other figures among ******'s close associates who had played a more active role for a much longer time, were released from jail after a number of years that appear reasonable under normal legal aspects.

      The author has gathered together the shreds of evidence that remained after the British in 1945 had collected and destroyed whatever pertinent files they were able to put their hands on and "neutralized" undesirable witnesses. He shows that the "Hess incident" - Hess' solo flight to Scotland in May, 1941, a month before Germany attacked the Soviet Union - was not at all the feat of a madman decided on at the spur of the moment that it was later made to appear by both the British and the German side. Even (nay, particularly!) ******'s deputy could not just get into his personal Messerschmitt 110 and take off for the 1000 mile flight to Prestwick without major technical and logistic preparations in Germany, along the way, and at the other end.

      The book explains that the flight as such was the result of a sting operation devised by Britain's Strategic Operations staff, aimed at making ****** believe that the British government could be toppled, peace could be made in the West, and the Germans would be able to affront the Soviets without having to worry about their western flank.

      According to Allen, in the year prior to Hess' flight, there had been numerous contacts, mainly in (neutral) Spain and Switzerland, between British representatives and German politicians and intellectuals. The talks in Scotland were to be, as it were, the touchstone of the matter. As time was getting short for the Germans, Hess convinced ****** that the German delegate should not be a mere emissary acting under orders but a political figure able to take decisions on the spot - Rudolf Hess.

      In the end, it makes little difference whether the British were thrown into complete disarray, as Allen asserts, when unexpectedly Hess turned up, or whether a lower-grade delegate would have been able to fly safely back to Germany and report. The British sting operation was effective enough in getting ****** to continue with his preparations for the war against the Soviet Union and thus remove pressure from Britain. To what extent the British actively encouraged the Germans in their plans, or whether or not they went so far as to promise support cannot be ascertained at the present time - whatever British files still exist seem to be under lock and key for another dozen years or so. Russian sources, on the other hand, may be provide some answers at an earlier date.

      What is frightening about the events Allen describes is the apparent lack of scruple with which the British government went about setting the two dictatorships up against each other. The outcome of this duel was not at all certain, for if weather conditions in late 1941 had been just a little more favorable for the German side, the Soviet empire might well have toppled and Britain would then have had to face a Germany extending from the Channel coast to the Urals. This unpleasant but entirely possible risk for Britain is begging the question to what extent Churchill, in order to forestall such a potentially horrifying scenario, did not somehow play a double game by keeping the Soviets informed, and assured of future Allied aid.

      Some American, quite a few Russian, and a couple of German historians have recently argued that Stalin, in 1941, was himself preparing to attack Germany. Considering the recent revelations by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin on the activities of the "Cambridge Five", it is entirely conceivable that, officially or unofficially, British sources kept Stalin informed of the negotiations. For a man like Stalin whose distrust was legendary, the obvious reaction would have been to prepare against a German attack, possibly by a pre-emptive strike. It is significant that at the time of the sting operation, Anthony Blunt, a member of the Cambridge Five, occupied a key position within MI5; after the war, he was to be involved in the cover-up operations in Germany.

      Regardless of who, Stalin or ******, would eventually win that confrontation, the only thing that was certain, even in 1941, is that such a war would spell the end of freedom for most of the still independent states in Central and Eastern Europe. The only foreseeable difference would have been that, under Soviet rule, the Slavic states might fare slightly better, whereas countries like Hungary or Romania would have found ****** somewhat more accomodating. In any case, the fate of the lands in question should have been clear to the Western world when the Germans discovered, in 1943, the graves of thousands of Polish officers murdered by the Soviets at Katyn two years earlier. However, by then it was too late, the Western powers preferred not to take too close a look at the implications, and chose to abandon those countries to the Soviets for the next half century.



      A Mystery Explained?

      Reviewer: Dr Neil Bathurst from Exminster, Devon United Kingdom

      The flight of Rudolf Hess to Britain in 1941 has remained one of the great enigmas of World war Two. Derided as a madman and incacerated for the rest of his life Hess was never able to tell the real truth about his mission. This book, drawing upon secret service documents, seeks to explain that mission. The book argues that in 1940 Churchill realised that Britain had only one hope of survival - that ****** would invade Russia, thereby ioening a second front. ****** had, therefore, to be encouraged to invade Russia. To this end the British secret service (using amongst others the then Duke of Kent) duped the Nazis into believing that there was a pro-peace faction in Britain ready to throw out Churchill and sue for peace. To that end a Nazi official was supposed to fly to Scotland for talks. The man who actually arrived was Rudolf Hess.

      Fanciful? At first glance yes. However, the evidence presented is compelling. Why for example was the Duke of Kent at Dungavel Castle (Hess' destination) on the night in question? Why was Britains ambassador to Spain flying to Switzerland on days when Hess was known to have flown out of Germany? If Hess was mad why was he signing government decrees and chairing meetings right up to the day he left?

      This is a fascinating book, well researched and well written. Hess remains one of the great enigmas of the war years - this book may explain the extraordinary events of 10th May 1941.

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      [B]Evidence The British Forced ****** To Continue WWII

      The ******-Hess Deception

      By Martin Allen



      I'm stunned!!

      Tonight, at 8:15pm on NTV in the show 'TECHNIK & TRENDS' we were shown an Interview with the English Historian MARTIN ALLEN, in which he very clearly stated that according to documents he found in the British Archives, Rudolf Hess flew to Gt Britain with ******'s knowledge and with a 7 Point peace plan from ****** in his pocket.

      ******'s Peace Plan included:

      a) Withdrawal of all German Troops from Poland, Belgium, France & Holland.

      b) Reimbursement for war damage to those countries

      c) Total German disarmament

      d) Destruction of all German war weaponry.

      This offer threw the British Government under Churchill who had ready made plans to force Germany into a war into a turmoil and the British knew they couldn't accept ******'s offer, so they threw Hess into Prison and tossed away the key. What also came out of the interview was the fact that the British were not worried about Nazi 'brutality' at all but the extremely successful model of government the Germans (******) had devised.

      Martin Allen has written all this in his latest book.
      And THIS on German TV....heads will roll!!




      The ******-Hess Deception


      By Martin Allen

      Synopsis (Amazon.co.uk)



      This text aims to shed light on discoveries which claim to reveal the truth about Rudolph Hess' solo flight to Britain in May 1941 and explain the British government's 60-year-long silence as to what the Hess mission was all about. The mystery of the deputy Fuhrer's flight and subsequent silence has led to a seemingly endless flow of books speculating as to his motives. In 2001 (the 60th anniversary of the flight) more books appeared. But the crucial pieces of evidence which could prove that the British government were playing a game - the outcome of which would have far-reaching effects on the course of the war - have not been found. This book claims to have this very information.

      ....
      Allen's verhaal is een beetje anders ...

      zie:

      Why Hess dropped in

      A new theory suggests the odd flight of ******'s deputy was a plot to oust Churchill and end the war. Roy Hattersley on a historical detective story from Martin Allen ...
      Sunday March 16, 2003
      The Observer

      The ******-Hess Deception
      by Martin Allen
      HarperCollins £19.99, pp352

      On the evening of 10 May 1941 Rudolf Hess, ******'s Deputy Fuhrer and philosopher of National Socialism, arrived unexpectedly in Scotland by Messerschmitt and parachute. It was his unconventional choice of transport almost as much as the initial bewilderment about his intentions, which turned his apparently pointless mission into one of the twentieth century's most durable mysteries.

      The British Government announced that Hess was mad and had deluded himself into believing that he could broker an unlikely peace between Axis and Allies. Berlin continued London's explanation. But doubts persisted. Martin Allen has produced a rival account of the Hess affair which, although unlikely, is certainly plausible. The way in which he sets it out makes The ******-Hess Deception a thoroughly enjoyable detective story.

      It begins with Dr Ludwig Weissauer - 'understood to be a direct secret emissary of ******' - suggesting a meeting with the British Ambassador to Sweden. Sir Robert Vansittart, the Foreign Secretary's 'chief diplomatic adviser', urged Lord Halifax to issue 'the most categorical instruction' that the invitation must be declined. Weissauer wanted to talk peace. The terms which intelligence suggested he was offering included the continued German annexation of Czechoslovakia and were, therefore, unacceptable. But what really disturbed Vansittart was the implication inherent in the meeting. Germany suspected that Britain was not firm in its resolve to fight the war to a finish.

      Even when Winston Churchill succeeded Chamberlain there were still hopes in the Berlin High Command that the appeasement faction in Britain would organise a successful coup and install a Prime Minister who was prepared to sue for peace. According to Allen, the Nazis were reinforced in that judgment by the occasional (and invariably unsuccessful) attempts to carry a parliamentary vote of no confidence in Churchill's coalition government. If that is so, we can only conclude that ****** and his cronies had no idea how the House of Commons worked.

      British intelligence did, however, recognise how susceptible the Germans were to the notion that Churchill's strategy of blood, sweat and tears had not been wholeheartedly accepted in Westminster and Whitehall. Berlin, it was thought, assumed that Sir Samuel Hoare, a Cabinet Minister in Chamberlain's government whom Churchill had made Ambassador to Spain, had been 'banished' by the new Prime Minister because his loyalty was suspect. The scene was set for Hoare to at least feed the Germans' suspicion. Allen (a distinguished exponent of the 'it is reasonable to assume' school of historical analysis) believes, but admits he cannot prove, that Hoare met Hess in Madrid. From then on the reader is fed a series of plausible assumptions made more convincing by the details with which they are justified.

      During Hess's preparations for bed on the night before he flew to Britain he noticed that his wife was reading the Duke of Hamilton's account of flying over Everest. It was, the author assures us, an unlikely coincidence. 'Hess himself had been looking at it, left it out, and Ilse had subsequently picked it up.' Ergo, the plan to drop in on the Duke of Hamilton had been carefully prepared and the location of his arrival in Scotland precisely determined in advance.

      On the basis of that quality of circumstantial evidence Allen comes to his novel conclusion that Hess and ****** were duped by British intelligence into believing that something called the Hoare-Halifax Pact had been created, and that the plotters were preparing to depose Churchill and end the war. The object of the complicated exercise was to persuade ****** that Britain was no longer a threat and that he could invade Russia without fearing that the Wehrmacht would be forced to fight on two fronts. Hess, according to the Allen thesis, flew into Britain just to make sure that everything was going according to what he believed to be the plan.

      Perhaps the British intelligence operation was as sophisticated (and as successful) as the scam story requires. But I shall need far harder evidence before I am convinced. Allen tells us that two comparatively junior Foreign Office officials talked about Lord Beaverbrook being made Deputy Prime Minister 'to let Winston stand down and let the Beaver make a compromise peace'. He goes on to write, 'Intriguingly, in the weeks and months ahead, Lord Beaverbrook would be one of the very few men in Britain granted access to Rudolf Hess.' Intriguing, certainly. But not evidence, and barely history.
      http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/...914858,00.html

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      Wel een interessant verhaal... Ik vraag me af hoeveel er van waar is.

      Het geeft in elk geval weer eens weer dat H-tler meer medestanders had in andere Westerse landen, dan dat na de tweede wereldoorlog bekend werd.

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      Nou en?
      Het zou dan een paar miljoen slachtoffers gescheeld hebben. Als het waar is dan zijn de Britten medeverantwoordelijk voor de vele miljoenen doden.
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      Het zou dan een paar miljoen slachtoffers gescheeld hebben. Als het waar is dan zijn de Britten medeverantwoordelijk voor de vele miljoenen doden.
      Mjah... volgens deze complottheorie was het dus de bedoeling dat er "vrede" kwam tussen Engeland en Duitsland. Dat Frankrijk, Nederland, Belgie door Quisling regime bestuurd zou worden en dat H-tler zich vervolgens volledig kon concentreren op de Sovjet-unie. Zoals je weet steunden veel van de kapitalistische steunpilaren (grote banken, grote industriele complexen) H-tler met geld en technologie. Dit deden ze omdat ze wilden dat H1tler de Sovjets in de pan zou hakken, die ze als een zeer gevaarlijke plaag zagen.

      Die miljoenen doden zouden er dus in elk geval zijn gekomen.

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      hmm waarschijnlijk ben jij zo een figuur ,die vindt dat er te weinig joden en slachtoffers zijn gevallen, volgens mij had je graag gezien dat WOll nog een jaar of 10 langer duurde,dan was je nu als een afstammeling van een duitse mof wel een of andere bestuurder in afrika of MO geworden

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      BEWIJS Hudje/Farid? Dit verhaal is al vlak na de oorlog ontstaan. Verschijnt om de zoveel jaar weer boven water. Zielig als je dit BEWIJS noemt.


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      Mjah... volgens deze complottheorie was het dus de bedoeling dat er "vrede" kwam tussen Engeland en Duitsland. Dat Frankrijk, Nederland, Belgie door Quisling regime bestuurd zou worden en dat H-tler zich vervolgens volledig kon concentreren op de Sovjet-unie. Zoals je weet steunden veel van de kapitalistische steunpilaren (grote banken, grote industriele complexen) H-tler met geld en technologie. Dit deden ze omdat ze wilden dat H1tler de Sovjets in de pan zou hakken, die ze als een zeer gevaarlijke plaag zagen.

      Die miljoenen doden zouden er dus in elk geval zijn gekomen.
      Maar geen holocaust denk ik.

      Ik heb hier trouwens een boekje voor me wat verschenen is in 1950. Het heet: Een dolkstoot in de rug van het Nederlandse volk . Daar stelt de auteur Mr.J.E v.d. Starp dat de bloedbad die veroorzaakt is onder de illegaliteit gedurende 1942 en 1943 veroorzaakt is doordat de Engelse Geheime dienst in die periode bewust en opzettelijk belangrijke groepen van het verzet verraden heeft aan de Duitse Geheime dienst
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      BEWIJS Hudje/Farid? Dit verhaal is al vlak na de oorlog ontstaan. Verschijnt om de zoveel jaar weer boven water. Zielig als je dit BEWIJS noemt.
      Dat Hess mogelijk een dubbelganger was kwam vlak na de oorlog al naar boven. Maar dit is een nieuw boek deels gebaseerd op geheime documenten die onlangs zijn vrijgegeven.

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