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vlegeltje
21-07-05, 13:33
1.30pm

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Alert at tube stations

Mark Oliver and James Sturcke
Thursday July 21, 2005

Emergency services are responding to reports of incidents at three London underground stations today, and witnesses reported seeing smoke.
Scotland Yard said they were responding to incidents at Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations on the underground. British Transport police said all of the stations were being evacuated.

A passenger on a tube train about to arrive at Warren Street tube stations said there were reports of an exploding rucksack, the smell of smoke and dozens of panicking passengers running through the train.


Guardian

wytze
21-07-05, 13:38
By Neil McIntosh / UK news 01:15pm

1315 We're getting new reports of a "series of incidents" on the tube network. Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush tubes have all been evacuated, and emergency services are attending. Services on the Victoria line and Northern line have been suspended.

Sky News is reporting a minor explosion on one tube at 1254. A passenger's backpack blew apart, but did not cause further damage. There was panic on the train, but passengers were able to disembark.


Guardian

mark61
21-07-05, 13:39
AP: London Underground spokesman says no reports of casualties in incidents at subway stations.

wytze
21-07-05, 13:41
ts around London

By Neil McIntosh / Attack on London/ UK news 01:28pm

1335 There have been reports of gunshots at Warren Street, but these may have been detonators going off, it is suggested. There is another report of a nail bomb at Warren Street.

1333 Emergency services are now said to be responding to an incident on a bus in Hackney Road, in East London.

1328 PA reports: "A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said: 'Emergency services personnel are responding to reports of incidents at three locations on the Underground - the Oval, Warren Street and Shepherd's Bush.' Police were also among those attending the three stations, she said.
She could not confirm reports that witnesses at Warren Street had seen smoke." There are no reports of any injuries.


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NIS
21-07-05, 13:46
Wanneer begint men eens te realiseren, dat terrorisme alleen te bestreiden is door de oorzaken aan te pakken? Ze blijven terugkomen: :vlammen:

Spoetnik
21-07-05, 13:58
Dummy explosions using detonators only have sparked the evacuation of three Tube stations and the closure of three lines, a BBC correspondent has said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm

Dummy explosions??

Spoetnik
21-07-05, 14:00
Explosion reported on a bus in East London Hackney after bomb blasts at three central London underground stations.

July 21, 2005, 3:46 PM (GMT+02:00)

Explosion reported on a bus in East London Hackney after blasts at three central London underground stations.

All three Warren Street, Shepherds Bush and Oval have been evacuated. Gunshots heard on platform at Warren Street after commuter reported an exploding rucksack in the hands of a young man and smoke. People fled the carriage in panic. Device now described as a nail bomb. Streets around Warren Street cordoned off. Buildings evacuated around Oval. Three main Tube lines have just been closed.

Via Debka..

wytze
21-07-05, 14:04
Victoria Line passenger Ivan McCracken claimed a traveller's rucksack had exploded on the Tube outside Warren Street station. He told Sky News: "I was in a middle carriage and the train was not far short of Warren Street station when suddenly the door between my carriage and the next one burst open and dozens of people started rushing through. Some were falling, there was mass panic.

"It was difficult to get the story from any of them what had happened but when I got to ground level there was an Italian young man comforting an Italian girl who told me he had seen what had happened.

"He said that a man was carrying a rucksack and the rucksack suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open the rucksack.

"The man then made an exclamation as if something had gone wrong. At that point everyone rushed from the carriage."

Mr McCracken said he smelled smoke but did not see any injured passengers.

Police said the first incident was reported at 12.54pm.

Spoetnik
21-07-05, 14:08
Hmm de eerste aanslag is dus mislukt.. En nu lees ik dat er 1 slachtoffer is gevallen in Warren Station.. Ongetwijfeld heeft de politie de dader doodgeschoten: dead men tell no tales.

15:54 One casualty reported at Warren Street station (Sky News)

wytze
21-07-05, 14:08
By Neil McIntosh / Attack on London/ UK news 02:00pm

1400 An eyewitness has told Sky News that he was in the carriage next to the explosion at Oval. Someone dumped a large, black holdall or rucksack on the train and then ran off. Other passengers tried to stop him running away, but he escaped. Something in the bag went off, making a sound "like a Champagne cork popping".

1351 It is now being reported that there was an attempted suicide bombing at Warren Street, but the bomb didn't go off properly. Some windows were blown out the bus at Hackney, it is reported. Scotland Yard says it is not treating this as a major incident, yet.

1345 The situation thus far: it's unclear what the nature of these incidents is. But it is clear there have been several, scattered around London. In the last few minutes the tube has, just as it was two weeks ago to the day, been closed down. A London Ambulance spokesman has told PA they were called to Oval at 12.38.pm and Warren Street at 12.45pm. There are no details of the alert at Shepherd's Bush yet. There are no reports of casualties at any of the scenes.

Meanwhile, a bus in the east end of London, on Hackney Road, has been cordoned off, and the area evacuated.


Guardian

vlegeltje
21-07-05, 14:12
Bus windows blown out, no injuries - bus operator

LONDON (Reuters) - An explosion blew out the windows of a bus in the Hackney area of London on Thursday but there were no reports of injuries, bus operator Stagecoach said. 21-7-2005 15:04

JobHopper
21-07-05, 14:18
Bommetjes werkte blijkbaar niet (goed)...

Hopelijk hebben ze de dader(s) niet meteen doodgeschoten, maar enigszins op een plek die dusdanig erg is dat hij het niet overleeft, maar nog minimaal een paar maanden verschrikkelijke pijnen heeft...


:fuckit2:

vlegeltje
21-07-05, 14:28
2.20pm update

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Alert after incidents on tube and bus

· 3 tube stations and bus affected
· Nail bombing reported
· 'Armed police enter hospital'

Mark Oliver, James Sturcke and agencies
Thursday July 21, 2005


Police seal off the area around Warren Street tube station after further incidents on London's public transport system were reported. Photograph: Gareth Fuller/PA


Police and emergency services are responding to incidents at three London underground stations and on a bus.
There are unconfirmed reports of a nail bomb exploding at Warren Street tube station and there one person has been injured there.

There were no reports of other casualties at the scene of the other incidents at Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations and on a No 26 bus at the junction of Hackney Road and Columbia Road in east London.

Television footage showed that the bus, which appeared to be intact, had been evacuated.

At this stage, Scotland Yard were not describing the incidents as "major", Reuters reported. The incidents come two weeks to the day after 56 people were killed when four suicide bombers attacked three tube stations and a bus in the capital.

Today some witnesses said they heard gunshots at Warren Street and saw an assailant running from the scene but Scotland Yard sources said it was unclear if the noise was from gunfire or detonating caps.

A passenger on a tube train about to arrive at Warren Street tube station said another passenger had told him there had been an exploding rucksack. He described seeing smoke and dozens of panicking passengers running through the train.

"The train was not far short of Warren Street station when suddenly the doors between my carriage and the next one burst open and dozens of passengers started running through," retired special constable Ivan McCracken told Sky News.

Police cordoned off most of Euston Road, near Warren Street, and officers with sniffer dogs combed the pavement and the surrounding area.

Rows of fire engines lined up outside University College Hospital next to the station and there were unconfirmed reports that armed officers had entered the hospital.

British Transport police said all of the affected tube stations were being evacuated.

Transport for London confirmed that four lines - the Hammersmith and City, Northern, Bakerloo and Victoria - had been suspended.

A spokesman said: "There is a code amber which means that the trains are being taken to the next station and passengers evacuated to above ground. Police are at all three stations."

Overland services were running as normal and had not been affected, a Network Rail spokesman said

Sosiane Mohellavi, 35, was travelling from Oxford Circus to Walthamstow when she was evacuated from a train at Warren Street.

"I was in the carriage and we smelt smoke - it was like something was burning. Everyone was panicked and people were screaming. We had to pull the alarm. I am still shaking. We pulled into Warren Street and were evacuated. It was horrible," she told the Press Association.

A London Ambulance spokesman said: "We are currently responding with other emergency services to incidents at Warren Street, Shepherd's Bush and Oval ... at this time there are no reports of casualties at any of the scenes."

The spokesman said they were called to Oval at 12.38pm and sent three ambulance vehicles; they were called to Warren Street at 12.45pm and sent five vehicles.

Downing Street said that given the uncertainty over events, the prime minister, Tony Blair, had cancelled a visit to a school in east London this afternoon. He had been due to meet security chiefs to discuss the July 7 attacks later today.

The Metropolitan police have warned of a risk of further attacks.

The London mayor, Ken Livingstone, has cancelled a visit to the Family Assistance Centre set up to help victims of the July 7 blasts in light of the current tube incidents.

Guardian

observer
21-07-05, 14:34
Geplaatst door Spoetnik
Hmm de eerste aanslag is dus mislukt.. En nu lees ik dat er 1 slachtoffer is gevallen in Warren Station.. Ongetwijfeld heeft de politie de dader doodgeschoten: dead men tell no tales.

15:54 One casualty reported at Warren Street station (Sky News)
casualty= gewonde
fatality= dode

klink alsof iemand zijn mix voor explosieven niet goed gekregen heeft

zeker cola ipv diesel gebruikt

waterfiets
21-07-05, 14:45
Geplaatst door observer

zeker cola ipv diesel gebruikt

tja het lijken inderdaad mislukte aanslagen maar de impact zal enorm zijn en het zal nog meer sociale onrust geven. ik hoorde dat een dader mogelijk een ziekenhuis is ingevlucht.

Arqaz
21-07-05, 15:02
Geplaatst door waterfiets
tja het lijken inderdaad mislukte aanslagen maar de impact zal enorm zijn en het zal nog meer sociale onrust geven. ik hoorde dat een dader mogelijk een ziekenhuis is ingevlucht.
Jammer genoeg wel ja! Ook al eist deze aanslag geen directe slachtoffers, de angst die het versterkt daarentegen wel.

helly2002
21-07-05, 15:06
Wanneer begint men eens te realiseren, dat terrorisme alleen te bestreiden is door de oorzaken aan te pakken? Ze blijven terugkomen



wat zijn de directe oorzaken behalve afghanistan irak en israel of zou er zonder dat niks gebeuren ?

wytze
21-07-05, 15:12
Alle aandacht op London en dan worden andere zaken vergeten.



6/7: THE MASSACRE OF THE POOR THAT THE WORLD IGNORED
The US cannot accept that the Haitian president it ousted still has support

Naomi Klein
Monday July 18, 2005

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1530800,00.html

Guardian
When terror strikes western capitals, it doesn't just blast bodies and
buildings, it also blasts other sites of suffering off the media map. A
massacre of Iraqi children, blown up while taking sweets from US soldiers,
is banished deep into the inside pages of our newspapers. The outpouring of
compassion for the daily deaths of thousands from Aids in Africa is
suddenly treated as a frivolous distraction.

In this context, a massacre in Haiti alleged to have taken place the day
before the London bombings never stood a chance. Well before July 7, Haiti
couldn't compete in the suffering sweepstakes: the US-supported coup that
ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide had the misfortune of taking place
in late February 2004, just as the occupation of Iraq was reaching a new
level of chaos and brutality. The crushing of Haiti's constitutional
democracy made headlines for only a couple of weeks.

But the battle over Haiti's future rages on. Most recently, on July 6, 300
UN troops stormed the pro-Aristide slum of Cité Soleil. The UN admits that
five were killed, but residents put the number of dead at no fewer than 20.
A Reuters correspondent, Joseph Guyler Delva, says he "saw seven bodies in
one house alone, including two babies and one older woman in her 60s". Ali
Besnaci, head of Médecins Sans Frontières in Haiti, confirmed that on the
day of the siege an "unprecedented" 27 people came to the MSF clinic with
gunshot wounds, three-quarters of them women and children.

Where news of the siege was reported, it was treated as a necessary measure
to control Haiti's violent armed gangs. But the residents of Cité Soleil
tell a different story: they say they are being killed not for being
violent, but for being militant - for daring to demand the return of their
elected president. On the bodies of their dead friends and family members,
they place photographs of Aristide.

It was only 10 years ago that President Clinton celebrated Aristide's
return to power as "the triumph of freedom over fear". So it seems worth
asking: what changed?

Aristide is certainly no saint, but even if the worst of the allegations
against him are true, they pale next to the rap sheets of the convicted
killers, drug smugglers and arms traders who ousted him. Turning Haiti over
to this underworld gang out of concern for Aristide's lack of "good
governance" is like escaping an annoying date by accepting a lift home from
Charles Manson.

A few weeks ago I visited Aristide in Pretoria, South Africa, where he
lives in forced exile. I asked him what was really behind his dramatic
falling-out with Washington. He offered an explanation rarely heard in
discussions of Haitian politics - actually, he offered three:
"Privatization, privatization and privatization."

The dispute dates back to a series of meetings in early 1994, a pivotal
moment in Haiti's history that Aristide has rarely discussed. Haitians were
living under the barbaric rule of Raoul Cédras, who overthrew Aristide in a
1991 US-backed coup. Aristide was in Washington and, despite popular calls
for his return, there was no way he could face down the junta without
military back-up.

Increasingly embarrassed by Cédras's abuses, the Clinton administration
offered Aristide a deal: US troops would take him back to Haiti - but only
after he agreed to a sweeping economic program with the stated goal to
"substantially transform the nature of the Haitian state".

Aristide agreed to pay the debts accumulated under the kleptocratic
Duvalier dictatorships, slash the civil service, open up Haiti to "free
trade" and cut import tariffs on rice and corn. It was a lousy deal but,
Aristide says, he had little choice. "I was out of my country and my
country was the poorest in the western hemisphere, so what kind of power
did I have at that time?"

But Washington's negotiators made one demand that Aristide could not
accept: the immediate sell-off of Haiti's state-owned enterprises,
including phones and electricity. Aristide argued that unregulated
privatization would transform state monopolies into private oligarchies,
increasing the riches of Haiti's elite and stripping the poor of their
national wealth. He says the proposal simply didn't add up: "Being honest
means saying two plus two equals four. They wanted us to sing two plus two
equals five."

Aristide proposed a compromise: Rather than sell off the firms outright, he
would "democratize" them. He defined this as writing anti-trust
legislation, ensuring that proceeds from the sales were redistributed to
the poor and allowing workers to become shareholders. Washington backed
down, and the final text of the agreement called for the "democratization"
of state companies.

But when Aristide announced that no sales could take place until parliament
had approved the new laws, Washington cried foul. Aristide says he realised
then that what was being attempted was an "economic coup". "The hidden
agenda was to tie my hands once I was back and make me give for nothing all
the state public enterprises."

He threatened to arrest anyone who went ahead with privatizations.
"Washington was very angry at me. They said I didn't respect my word, when
they were the ones who didn't respect our common economic policy."

The US cut off more than $500m in promised loans and aid, starving his
government, and poured millions into the coffers of opposition groups,
culminating ultimately in the February 2004 armed coup.

And the war continues. On June 23 Roger Noriega, US assistant secretary of
state for western hemisphere affairs, called on UN troops to take a more
"proactive role" in going after armed pro-Aristide gangs. In practice, this
has meant a wave of collective punishment inflicted on neighborhoods known
for supporting Aristide, most recently in Cité Soleil on July 6.

Yet despite these attacks, Haitians are still on the streets - rejecting
the planned sham elections, opposing privatisation and holding up
photographs of their president. And just as Washington's experts could not
fathom the possibility that Aristide would reject their advice a decade
ago, today they cannot accept that his poor supporters could be acting of
their own accord. "We believe that his people are receiving instructions
directly from his voice and indirectly through his acolytes that
communicate with him personally in South Africa," Noriega said.

Aristide claims no such powers. "The people are bright, the people are
intelligent, the people are courageous," he says. They know that two plus
two does not equal five.

* Research assistance was provided by Aaron Maté.

* A version of this column was first published in the Nation
(www.thenation.com).

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005

waterfiets
21-07-05, 16:16
Geplaatst door helly2002
wat zijn de directe oorzaken behalve afghanistan irak en israel of zou er zonder dat niks gebeuren ?

Er zijn zoveel oorzaken en ideologieën die dit voeden. Er zijn mensen die het westen willen islamiseren, er zijn er die genoeg hebben van de bemoeienis in het Midden Oosten, er zijn er die simpelweg vanuit een sociaal isolement tot dit soort daden komen. Doordat de bommen nu niet zijn afgegaan (ik denk dat alleen de ontstekers zijn afgegaan) zal er veel forensisch bewijsmateriaal zijn.

observer
21-07-05, 21:21
Geplaatst door helly2002
Wanneer begint men eens te realiseren, dat terrorisme alleen te bestreiden is door de oorzaken aan te pakken? Ze blijven terugkomen



wat zijn de directe oorzaken behalve afghanistan irak en israel of zou er zonder dat niks gebeuren ? afghanistan en irak was post 9-11

dus

overigens is een alternatief elke terrorist opknopen aan een speciaal geplante boom nog goed voor milieu

nard
21-07-05, 21:28
Geplaatst door observer
afghanistan en irak was post 9-11

dus

overigens is een alternatief elke terrorist opknopen aan een speciaal geplante boom nog goed voor milieu

Hij moet'm dan wel zelf planten

JobHopper
22-07-05, 13:40
Geplaatst door helly2002
Wanneer begint men eens te realiseren, dat terrorisme alleen te bestreiden is door de oorzaken aan te pakken? Ze blijven terugkomen

wat zijn de directe oorzaken behalve afghanistan irak en israel of zou er zonder dat niks gebeuren ?

Een van de redenen is het willen islamitiseren van de gehele wereld. De enige manier dus op dit op te lossen is om jezelf te bekeren. Jammer alleen dat je niet weet tot welke stroming, want als sjiiet moet je dan weer bang zijn voor een aanval op je moskee door een soeniet en viceversa...