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IbnRushd
22-08-05, 11:26
14 July 2005 - Disappearing Perpetrators

As the designated perpetrators of the bombing in London are splashed around the media the story seems more and more ridiculous. These were military grade explosives set off by timers, yet the bombers apparently were killed in the blast. Why? Suicide is one of the gravest of sins in Islam, never mind the sin of multiple murder the bombs would be. The suicide bomb is an exceptional means of doing some damage in a war where no other means are open. Even supposing there was some perverse rational of revenge for the mass of civilians killed in Iraq, Chechnya, Algeria, Palestine etc, killing yourself in the process when you don’t have to makes no sense at all.

The main rational for their death seems similar to other terror attacks which in all likelihood were false flag operations: destroying the evidence. This reminds me of the way that the police informant bomber suspects for the Madrid bombings suddenly “blew themselves up” when the police surrounded the building and when the Luxor attackers dressed in police uniforms were all shot dead and none captured by Egyptian police. Dead suspects don’t protest their innocence.

Then there are the ID documents from the designated perpetrators conveniently found in piles of rubble near the explosions. These are as clearly planted as was Muhammad Atta’s infamous slightly charred passport found a couple of blocks from the World Trade Center towers.

It seems that the designated perpetrators were chosen, then eliminated then their documents planted at the scene. The rest of the task is covering up and removing the evidence that may prove their innocence and planting evidence that indicates guilt.

Even with the control of the government over the possible evidence and the secrecy with which they will carry out their “investigations” some things are hard to do. It is hard to place a body in the explosion that wasn’t there. This is perhaps why the police have not sought DNA tests to confirm their accusations and have considered the ID documents sufficient proof. There are even reports that the carrying of IDs was because the bombers wanted to be known. What nonsense!? If they wanted to be known, then they would have made a video of themselves explaining their actions. No confession videos will be found. No bodies of perpetrators will be found. No explanation will be offered or evidence provided as to how the military grade explosives got from the factory in Israel into the bombers hands. No investigation will focus on the exercises underway practically identical to the actual events or the multiple contradictory reports from that day. No investigation will reveal how the Israeli embassy and Netanyahu got warned in advance.

We are nevertheless supposed to believe all the mainstream media tells us about this no matter how contradictory. The aim of this investigation will be to close it as soon as possible with out any public court case to examine the evidence, but with everyone knowing who should be blamed: the Muslim next door. The more ridiculous the claim the more scary it is to the credulous. The next perpetrator could have every sign of being reasonable, normal, even having every reason to live such as having just become a father. It is a difficult choice. Which is more scary? Is the next door neighbour a potential mass murderer or is the government killing “their own people”?

What we do know is that the British government has lied to keep sanctions in place in Iraq, they are people who lied repeatedly to justify their acts of military aggression. We also know that these lies caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions.

We shouldn’t however be scared of the government. If I was, I wouldn’t be writing this. The only thing that should scare us is our own moral cowardice and how God may judge us for it.

The London Underground bristles with video cameras. Each platform has at least 3 cameras so that there is sufficient detail in the recorded video and so that all areas are covered. Most or all passageways and escalators have cameras. So why is it that when the police release CCTV images of the designated perpetrators there is not one from the London Underground? If these alleged bombers all went to their targets, why is there not a mass of CCTV footage of them going down the escalators, along the corridors, onto the platforms and onto the trains? Such footage, if it exists, would also give us the faces of all the people who surrounded the alleged bombers. However, we are supposed to think that a fuzzy image of one of them with his huge backpack from Luton station is some kind of evidence.

This reminds me of the fact that there was also no footage of the designated perpetrators of 9/11 getting through airport security in the airports where the planes departed. The only footage they had was of Muhammad Atta in Boston airport allegedly on an earlier connecting flight.

If this mass of CCTV turns up, then I will have to reconsider my opinion as to what actually happened here. But as it stands, I don’t think this will happen. The designated perpetrators were probably never on those trains and therefore such CCTV footage doesn’t exist. On the contrary, it will never be released precisely because it proves that they were not on those trains. If this footage exists why must we be expected to be satisfied with the fuzzy Luton station picture of one of them?

These designated perpetrators probably went off on their weekend trek and somewhere out of sight they were quietly disposed of and their IDs and possibly sample DNA placed near the site of the explosions before the police confidently announced their guilt. This guilt is now uniformly stated as fact by the mainstream media. It is no longer an investigation, it is pure propaganda.

There is one thing this picture from Luton train station does show. It shows that he was carrying a very large rucksack and was stooping to keep balance. Based on experience, I would say that such a bag must weigh at least 15 kilos, possibly as much as 30 kilos. Now this is supposed to be the one who used a bomb on the bus. But that bomb was calculated to be 10 pounds (less than 5 kilos) in weight. Such a bomb would neatly fit in a much smaller bag easily placed under a bus seat and left while the bomber makes his escape, so why have the huge rucksack? It makes no sense.

The bus also had several cameras. But despite a system of regular checking several times a week, somehow this camera had not been working for some weeks. How very convenient.

These are not only designated perpetrators who have disappeared. They were apparently also invisible, or somehow all the cameras around them stopped working. Normally the rule is that absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. But in the case of CCTV footage of the bombers going around on London Underground and busses where there is practically 100% coverage by CCTV, this absence of evidence is very clearly evidence of absence.

bron: http://www.islamic.org.uk/Comment/20050716_16_July_2005.htm

waterfiets
22-08-05, 12:20
Vreemd toch dat na aanslagen door moslims altijd dit soort idiote theorieën opduiken. Misschien het struisvogelsyndroom?

IbnRushd
22-08-05, 12:23
Geplaatst door waterfiets
Vreemd toch dat na aanslagen door moslims altijd dit soort idiote theorieën opduiken. Misschien het struisvogelsyndroom?

Dit komt niet van een moslim

http://www.daanspeak.com/LondonAttack02.html

waterfiets
22-08-05, 12:26
Geplaatst door IbnRushd
Dit komt niet van een moslim

http://www.daanspeak.com/LondonAttack02.html

Dat beweerde ik ook niet ...

IbnRushd
22-08-05, 12:29
Geplaatst door waterfiets
Dat beweerde ik ook niet ...

Ik vraag niet om je ontkenning. Ik toon je slechts dat 'complottheorieën' ook waarheid in kunnen bevatten, zonder dat 't afkomstig is van een mosim. Heb je 't trouwens gelezen?

waterfiets
24-08-05, 12:13
Geplaatst door IbnRushd
These were military grade explosives set off by timers, yet the bombers apparently were killed in the blast. Why? Suicide is one of the gravest of sins in Islam, never mind the sin of multiple murder the bombs would be.

Ja als je alles vanuit de Islam wil verklaren dan kom je niet echt veel verder bij een politieonderzoek. "Waarom zelfmoord? Dat is in strijd met de Islam!" Het hele artikel staat volmet dit soort onzinnige gedachten. Overigens is er vandaag nieuws over deze aanslagen:

Daders 'Londen' drukten op bomknop
De terroristen die de aanslagen van 7 juli in Londen pleegden, hebben de explosieven zelf met een drukknop tot ontploffing gebracht.

Eerdere theoriën
Dat meldt The Guardian op basis van bronnen binnen het Londense politiekorps. Het gebruik van 'bomknoppen' spreekt eerdere theorieën tegen. Er was sprake van dat de explosieven op afstand door derden tot ontploffing waren gebracht met bijvoorbeeld mobiele telefoons.

21 juli
Ook is gebleken dat de vier plegers van de mislukte aanslagen op 21 juli met de drukknop-methode werkten. Op 7 juli kwamen 52 mensen om door de aanslagen.