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~Panthera~
11-06-06, 10:10
Guantanamo suicides 'acts of war'.

The suicides of three detainees at the US base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, amount to acts of war , the US military says.
The camp commander said the two Saudis and a Yemeni were "committed" and had killed themselves in "an act of asymmetric warfare waged against us".
Rights groups said the men who hanged themselves had been driven by despair.

President George W Bush expressed "serious concern" over the suicides at Guantanamo, which holds about 460 men captured in the US "war on terror".

There have been dozens of suicide attempts since the camp was set up four years ago - but none successful until now.

The men were found unresponsive and not breathing by guards on Saturday morning, said officials.

They were in separate cells in Camp One, the highest security section of the prison.


I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of warfare waged against us
Rear Adm Harry Harris
Camp commander

They hanged themselves with clothing and bed sheets, camp commander Rear Adm Harry Harris said.

He said medical teams had tried to revive the men, but all three were pronounced dead.

A military investigation into the deaths is now under way.

'Creative'

Rear Adm Harris said he did not believe the men had killed themselves out of despair.

"They are smart. They are creative, they are committed," he said.

"They have no regard for life, either ours or their own. I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."


These people are despairing because they are being held lawlessly
Ken Roth
Human Rights Watch

All three men had previously taken part in some of the mass on-and-off hunger strikes undertaken by detainees since last August, and all three had been force-fed by camp authorities.

They had left suicide notes, but no details have been made available.

The US military said the men's bodies were being treated "with the utmost respect".

White House spokesman Tony Snow said Mr Bush had "expressed serious concern" at the deaths.

"He also stressed that it was important to treat the bodies humanely and with cultural sensitivity," he said.

A spokesman for UK Prime Minister Tony Blair described the suicide as a "sad incident".

'Heroes'

The suicides have sparked a chorus of protest from human rights groups including Amnesty International, which repeated demands for the camp to be closed.

William Goodman from the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights told AFP news agency the men were "heroes for those of us who believe in basic American values of justice, fairness and democracy".

Mr Goodman, whose organisation represents some 300 detainees, said the government had denied them that.

Ken Roth, head of Human Rights Watch in New York, told the BBC the men had probably been driven by despair.

"These people are despairing because they are being held lawlessly," he said.

"There's no end in sight. They're not being brought before any independent judges. They're not being charged and convicted for any crime."
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:fuckit2: Godgloeiende Gvd ! Niet te geloven !! smeerlappen. :moe:

Good Kahuna
11-06-06, 10:16
Ik las het op teletekst. Zelfmoord als 'act of war'. Hoe bedenk je 't bij elkaar.

Doet me denken aan die December-moorden in Suriname door Desi Bouterse. Alle gevangenen waren gemarteld en geëxecuteerd, maar de regering hield vol dat ze op de vlucht waren neergeschoten. Toen bleek dat tenminste een van hen was gedood door ophanging, ontstond het volksgrapje dat "hij op de vlucht was opgehangen".

Sick shit.

~Panthera~
11-06-06, 10:22
Geplaatst door Good Kahuna
Ik las het op teletekst. Zelfmoord als 'act of war'. Hoe bedenk je 't bij elkaar.

Doet me denken aan die December-moorden in Suriname door Desi Bouterse. Alle gevangenen waren gemarteld en geëxecuteerd, maar de regering hield vol dat ze op de vlucht waren neergeschoten. Toen bleek dat tenminste een van hen was gedood door ophanging, ontstond het volksgrapje dat "hij op de vlucht was opgehangen".

Sick shit.


Die sick shit zou eens afgelopen moeten zijn. :moe:
Maar zolang er 4 of zo, het voor het zeggen hebben met hun Veto in de VN, kunnen we het zowiezo wel vergeten.
Kotsmisselijk wordt je er van. :kotsen:

Hoe creéér je terrorisme ? nou ZO dus. oa.
En maar net doen alsof ze het niet snappen. :moe:

Sallahddin
11-06-06, 13:48
Geplaatst door ~Panthera~
Guantanamo suicides 'acts of war'.

The suicides of three detainees at the US base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, amount to acts of war , the US military says.
The camp commander said the two Saudis and a Yemeni were "committed" and had killed themselves in "an act of asymmetric warfare waged against us".
Rights groups said the men who hanged themselves had been driven by despair.

President George W Bush expressed "serious concern" over the suicides at Guantanamo, which holds about 460 men captured in the US "war on terror".

There have been dozens of suicide attempts since the camp was set up four years ago - but none successful until now.

The men were found unresponsive and not breathing by guards on Saturday morning, said officials.

They were in separate cells in Camp One, the highest security section of the prison.


I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of warfare waged against us
Rear Adm Harry Harris
Camp commander

They hanged themselves with clothing and bed sheets, camp commander Rear Adm Harry Harris said.

He said medical teams had tried to revive the men, but all three were pronounced dead.

A military investigation into the deaths is now under way.

'Creative'

Rear Adm Harris said he did not believe the men had killed themselves out of despair.

"They are smart. They are creative, they are committed," he said.

"They have no regard for life, either ours or their own. I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."


These people are despairing because they are being held lawlessly
Ken Roth
Human Rights Watch

All three men had previously taken part in some of the mass on-and-off hunger strikes undertaken by detainees since last August, and all three had been force-fed by camp authorities.

They had left suicide notes, but no details have been made available.

The US military said the men's bodies were being treated "with the utmost respect".

White House spokesman Tony Snow said Mr Bush had "expressed serious concern" at the deaths.

"He also stressed that it was important to treat the bodies humanely and with cultural sensitivity," he said.

A spokesman for UK Prime Minister Tony Blair described the suicide as a "sad incident".

'Heroes'

The suicides have sparked a chorus of protest from human rights groups including Amnesty International, which repeated demands for the camp to be closed.

William Goodman from the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights told AFP news agency the men were "heroes for those of us who believe in basic American values of justice, fairness and democracy".

Mr Goodman, whose organisation represents some 300 detainees, said the government had denied them that.

Ken Roth, head of Human Rights Watch in New York, told the BBC the men had probably been driven by despair.

"These people are despairing because they are being held lawlessly," he said.

"There's no end in sight. They're not being brought before any independent judges. They're not being charged and convicted for any crime."
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:fuckit2: Godgloeiende Gvd ! Niet te geloven !! smeerlappen. :moe:



"...suicides,acts of war against the US..."???:...no comment!!!
De VS maakt het leven van die mensen(die zijn ook mensen) tot een hel,zonder enig vorm van proces of juridish kader en onder erbarmelijke omstandigheden(human rights ???....die zijn zoek in deze kader van de "leader of the free world"...erger nog :de VS aarzelt ook niet om andere naties de les te preken over mensenrechten:zelfs de Nazi's werden beter behandeld en berecht!)!!!!) en reageert vervolgens geschokt ; verontwaardigd en zelfs "targeted"(act of war ;belachelijk!) als die laatsten een uitweg uit hun lijdensweg uit wanhoop verkiezen door zelfmoord(in scene gezet kan ook en dus niet uitgesloten!)....wat wil je nog meer :woorden komen te kort!!!!!!!!!!!
En...dan nog ook klagen dat "terrorisme" toe neemt!!!!

Ik was tegen de 9-11....maar na al die atrociteiten van de VS overal ;i changed my mind & i would be glad to see the US suffer a big blow ,much worse than the 9-11 or Pearl-Harbor!!!!

"...justice for all or for nobody!!!"!!!!

P:S; kijk wat Israel doet ,gebruikmakend van de aandacht die de wereldcup aantrekt,as usual,....en opzettelijk alles doet om Hamas weer in de gewapend strijd te dwingen zich te betrekken:nou;da's gelukt!!!!

Enjoy the world cup & the summer time...maar blijf alert om wat je omheen gebeurt....het risico dat het een heel heet zomer wordt is hoogwaarschijnlijk!!!

Wizdom
11-06-06, 14:38
Is een wind laten of naar het toilet gaan in Guantanamo Bay ook een "Act of War..."...


Wat een halzen die Amerikanen... Ze beginnen het niveau van de NAZIS te evenaren als ze die al niet hebben voorbijgestreefd....

Goodnight
11-06-06, 15:05
Ok, ik weet nu niet of ik moet huilen of lachen.

Het was te verwachten, deze achterlijke zielige reactie.

En men zal het slikken als zoete koek.

Enige wat ik kan zeggen is dat ik de wanhoopsdaden van sommige mensen begin te begrijpen.

Rourchid
11-06-06, 15:49
Geplaatst door Goodnight
Ok, ik weet nu niet of ik moet huilen of lachen.

Het was te verwachten, deze achterlijke zielige reactie.

En men zal het slikken als zoete koek.

Enige wat ik kan zeggen is dat ik de wanhoopsdaden van sommige mensen begin te begrijpen.
Met deze constructie kunnen ook verwondingen van mishandelde politieke gevangen afgeboekt worden als 'acts of asymmetric warfare waged against us'.
Zo wordt getracht de politieke gevangen een werkelijkheid voor te wenden waarin zij onbestraft gemarteld en zelfs vermoord zouden kunnen worden.

Iglo
11-06-06, 22:45
Geplaatst door ~Panthera~
Guantanamo suicides 'acts of war'.

The suicides of three detainees at the US base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, amount to acts of war , the US military says.
Ongelofelijk wat voor een malloot die Amerikanen daar neergezet hebben. Hoe lang trapt het Amerikaanse publiek hier nog in.

Joesoef
12-06-06, 08:26
Dead detainee 'was to be freed'
One of the three men who committed suicide at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay was due to be released - but did not know it, says a US lawyer.

Mark Denbeaux, who represents some of the foreign detainees, told the BBC's World Today programme the man was among 141 prisoners scheduled for release.

The Pentagon said the prisoner, Mani Shaman Turki al-Habardi Al-Utaybi, had been recommended for transfer.

It has also named the other two men who died on Saturday morning.

They are Ali Abdullah Ahmed and Yassar Talal al-Zahrani.

Utaybi and Zahrani had previous been named by Saudi authorities.

'Ignorant suicide'

In his interview, Professor Denbeaux described the feeling among detainees at the Cuba camp as one of hopelessness.

"These people are told they'll be 50 by the time they get out, that they have no hope of getting out. They've been denied a hearing, they have no chance to be released," he said.

"We've just learned that one of the three people who killed himself was one of the 141 that we [the US] had scheduled to release.

"However our policy was we would refuse to tell people who were scheduled to be released until we had a location.

"So we had decided this was a safe person, free to be released, but we needed a country to send him to, and his despair was great enough and in his ignorance he went and killed himself."

Tide of reaction

There has been continued reaction to the three deaths from governments and rights groups around the world.

The United Nations rapporteur on torture, Manfred Nowak, said European leaders should use a summit with President George W Bush next week to press for the prison's closure.

Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said procedures at Guantanamo Bay violated the rule of law and undermined the fight against terrorism.

US authorities have taken a strong line against the apparent suicides, with top state department official calling them a "good PR move to draw attention".

Story from BBC NEWS

~Panthera~
12-06-06, 11:30
Geplaatst door Joesoef
Dead detainee 'was to be freed'
One of the three men who committed suicide at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay was due to be released - but did not know it, says a US lawyer.

Mark Denbeaux, who represents some of the foreign detainees, told the BBC's World Today programme the man was among 141 prisoners scheduled for release.

The Pentagon said the prisoner, Mani Shaman Turki al-Habardi Al-Utaybi, had been recommended for transfer.

It has also named the other two men who died on Saturday morning.

They are Ali Abdullah Ahmed and Yassar Talal al-Zahrani.

Utaybi and Zahrani had previous been named by Saudi authorities.

'Ignorant suicide'

In his interview, Professor Denbeaux described the feeling among detainees at the Cuba camp as one of hopelessness.

"These people are told they'll be 50 by the time they get out, that they have no hope of getting out. They've been denied a hearing, they have no chance to be released," he said.

"We've just learned that one of the three people who killed himself was one of the 141 that we [the US] had scheduled to release.

"However our policy was we would refuse to tell people who were scheduled to be released until we had a location.

"So we had decided this was a safe person, free to be released, but we needed a country to send him to, and his despair was great enough and in his ignorance he went and killed himself."

Tide of reaction

There has been continued reaction to the three deaths from governments and rights groups around the world.

The United Nations rapporteur on torture, Manfred Nowak, said European leaders should use a summit with President George W Bush next week to press for the prison's closure.

Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said procedures at Guantanamo Bay violated the rule of law and undermined the fight against terrorism.

US authorities have taken a strong line against the apparent suicides, with top state department official calling them a "good PR move to draw attention".

Story from BBC NEWS



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