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Lost_lady
28-08-06, 20:45
Saalam--this is a great read...

Islamic Spirituality - The Forgotten Revolution
Abdal-Hakim Murad



THE POVERTY OF FANATICISM

'Blood is no argument', as Shakespeare observed. Sadly, Muslim ranks are today swollen with those who disagree. The World Trade Centre, yesterday's symbol of global finance, has today become a monument to the failure of global Islam to control those who believe that the West can be bullied into changing its wayward ways towards the East. There is no real excuse to hand. It is simply not enough to clamour, as many have done, about 'chickens coming home to roost', and to protest that Washington's acquiescence in Israeli policies of ethnic cleansing is the inevitable generator of such hate. It is of course true - as Shabbir Akhtar has noted - that powerlessness can corrupt as insistently as does power. But to comprehend is not to sanction or even to empathize. To take innocent life to achieve a goal is the hallmark of the most extreme secular utilitarian ethic, and stands at the opposite pole of the absolute moral constraints required by religion.

There was a time, not long ago, when the 'ultras' were few, forming only a tiny wart on the face of the worldwide attempt to revivify Islam. Sadly, we can no longer enjoy the luxury of ignoring them. The extreme has broadened, and the middle ground, giving way, is everywhere dislocated and confused. And this enfeeblement of the middle ground, was what was enjoined by the Prophetic example, is in turn accelerated by the opprobrium which the extremists bring not simply upon themselves, but upon committed Muslims everywhere. For here, as elsewhere, the preferences of the media work firmly against us. David Koresh could broadcast his fringe Biblical message from Ranch Apocalypse without the image of Christianity, or even its Adventist wing, being in any way besmirched. But when a fringe Islamic group bombs Swedish tourists in Cairo, the muck is instantly spread over 'militant Muslims' everywhere.

If these things go on, the Islamic movement will cease to form an authentic summons to cultural and spiritual renewal, and will exist as little more than a splintered array of maniacal factions. The prospect of such an appalling and humiliating end to the story of a religion which once surpassed all others in its capacity for tolerating debate and dissent is now a real possibility. The entire experience of Islamic work over the past fifteen years has been one of increasing radicalization, driven by the perceived failure of the traditional Islamic institutions and the older Muslim movements to lead the Muslim peoples into the worthy but so far chimerical promised land of the 'Islamic State.'

If this final catastrophe is to be averted, the mainstream will have to regain the initiative. But for this to happen, it must begin by confessing that the radical critique of moderation has its force. The Islamic movement has so far been remarkably unsuccessful. We must ask ourselves how it is that a man like Nasser, a butcher, a failed soldier and a cynical demagogue, could have taken over a country as pivotal as Egypt, despite the vacuity of his beliefs, while the Muslim Brotherhood, with its pullulating millions of members, should have failed, and failed continuously, for six decades. The radical accusation of a failure in methodology cannot fail to strike home in such a context of dismal and prolonged inadequacy.

It is in this context - startlingly, perhaps, but inescapably - that we must present our case for the revival of the spiritual life within Islam. If it is ever to prosper, the 'Islamic revival' must be made to see that it is in crisis, and that its mental resources are proving insufficient to meet contemporary needs. The response to this must be grounded in an act of collective muhasaba, of self-examination, in terms that transcend the ideologised neo-Islam of the revivalists, and return to a more classical and indigenously Muslim dialectic.

Symptomatic of the disease is the fact that among all the explanations offered for the crisis of the Islamic movement, the only authentically Muslim interpretation, namely, that God should not be lending it His support, is conspicuously absent. It is true that we frequently hear the Quranic verse which states that "God does not change the condition of a people until they change the condition of their own selves." [1. Al-Qur'an 13:11.] But never, it seems, is this principle intelligently grasped. It is assumed that the sacred text is here doing no more than to enjoin individual moral reform as a precondition for collective societal success. Nothing could be more hazardous, however, than to measure such moral reform against the yardstick of the fiqh without giving concern to whether the virtues gained have been acquired through conformity (a relatively simple task), or proceed spontaneously from a genuine realignment of the soul. The verse is speaking of a spiritual change, specifically, a transformation of the nafs of the believers - not a moral one. And as the Blessed Prophet never tired of reminding us, there is little value in outward conformity to the rules unless this conformity is mirrored and engendered by an authentically righteous disposition of the heart. 'No-one shall enter the Garden by his works,' as he expressed it. Meanwhile, the profoundly judgemental and works - oriented tenor of modern revivalist Islam (we must shun the problematic buzz-word 'fundamentalism'), fixated on visible manifestations of morality, has failed to address the underlying question of what revelation is for. For it is theological nonsense to suggest that God's final concern is with our ability to conform to a complex set of rules. His concern is rather that we should be restored, through our labours and His grace, to that state of purity and equilibrium with which we were born. The rules are a vital means to that end, and are facilitated by it. But they do not take its place.


--the rest of it> http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/PrintMedia/Articles/AR00000138.aspx

Olive Yao
28-08-06, 21:35
To take innocent life to achieve a goal is the hallmark of the most extreme secular utilitarian ethic, and stands at the opposite pole of the absolute moral constraints required by religion.
crap

Lost_lady
28-08-06, 21:52
Geplaatst door Olive Yao
crap

Blijkbaar heb je niet verder dan eerste alinia gelezen :jeweetog:

Wortel
29-08-06, 06:08
It is in this context - startlingly, perhaps, but inescapably - that we must present our case for the revival of the spiritual life within Islam. If it is ever to prosper, the 'Islamic revival' must be made to see that it is in crisis, and that its mental resources are proving insufficient to meet contemporary needs. The response to this must be grounded in an act of collective muhasaba, of self-examination, in terms that transcend the ideologised neo-Islam of the revivalists, and return to a more classical and indigenously Muslim dialectic.

Over deze muhasaba hadden we het hier op het forum kort geleden ook. Schitterend hoe deze man oproept tot de dialectiek, die de Islam van het eerste uur heeft gekend, en die in haar extremen inderdaad wel verdampt lijkt.


Symptomatic of the disease is the fact that among all the explanations offered for the crisis of the Islamic movement, the only authentically Muslim interpretation, namely, that God should not be lending it His support, is conspicuously absent. It is true that we frequently hear the Quranic verse which states that "God does not change the condition of a people until they change the condition of their own selves." [1. Al-Qur'an 13:11.] But never, it seems, is this principle intelligently grasped. It is assumed that the sacred text is here doing no more than to enjoin individual moral reform as a precondition for collective societal success. Nothing could be more hazardous, however, than to measure such moral reform against the yardstick of the fiqh without giving concern to whether the virtues gained have been acquired through conformity (a relatively simple task), or proceed spontaneously from a genuine realignment of the soul. The verse is speaking of a spiritual change, specifically, a transformation of the nafs of the believers - not a moral one. And as the Blessed Prophet never tired of reminding us, there is little value in outward conformity to the rules unless this conformity is mirrored and engendered by an authentically righteous disposition of the heart.

Vlijmscherpe en voor sommigen waarschijnlijk pijnlijke analyse en wat mij betreft ook helemaal waar.


'No-one shall enter the Garden by his works,' as he expressed it. Meanwhile, the profoundly judgemental and works - oriented tenor of modern revivalist Islam (we must shun the problematic buzz-word 'fundamentalism'), fixated on visible manifestations of morality, has failed to address the underlying question of what revelation is for. For it is theological nonsense to suggest that God's final concern is with our ability to conform to a complex set of rules. His concern is rather that we should be restored, through our labours and His grace, to that state of purity and equilibrium with which we were born. The rules are a vital means to that end, and are facilitated by it. But they do not take its place.

Driewerf Amien.
@Olive, ik zou dit wijze stuk nog eens goed doorlezen.

Olive Yao
29-08-06, 20:26
Geplaatst door Lost_lady
Blijkbaar heb je niet verder dan eerste alinia gelezen :jeweetog:
Jawel hoor. Vond ik geen crap. Vonnik sterk! :duim:

Vriend
29-08-06, 22:00
Geplaatst door Lost_lady
[B]Saalam--this is a great read...

Islamic Spirituality - The Forgotten Revolution
Abdal-Hakim Murad



THE POVERTY OF FANATICISM

'Blood is no argument', as Shakespeare observed. Sadly, Muslim ranks are today swollen with those who disagree. The World Trade Centre, yesterday's symbol of global finance


De WTC zijn volgens velen het Symbool van een verwoestende overnemingsdrang, ook weleens bestempeld als het 'neokolonialisme' of het doorgeslagen "opensamenlevingssyndroom."


The WTC: Symbol of Global finance? For the rich maybe..




[i]has today become a monument to the failure of global Islam to control those who believe that the West can be bullied into changing its wayward ways towards the East. There is no real excuse to hand. It is simply not enough to clamour, as many have done, about 'chickens coming home to roost', and to protest that Washington's acquiescence in Israeli policies of ethnic cleansing is the inevitable generator of such hate. It is of course true - as Shabbir Akhtar has noted - that powerlessness can corrupt as insistently as does power. But to comprehend is not to sanction or even to empathize. To take innocent life to achieve a goal is the hallmark of the most extreme secular utilitarian ethic, and stands at the opposite pole of the absolute moral constraints required by religion.

Door velen, veelal onderdrukten, is het ineenstorten van de WTC torens met luid gejuich ontvangen. Flessen champagne werden in zelfs Islamitsche huizen opengetrokken want voorwaar, Allah is de meest Barmhartige, vergevingsgezind en het was waarlijk een mooie dag al had men in geweten dat de volgende dag de oorlog zou voortgaan.

Heviger dan ooit tevoren.



There was a time, not long ago, when the 'ultras' were few, forming only a tiny wart on the face of the worldwide attempt to revivify Islam. Sadly, we can no longer enjoy the luxury of ignoring them. The extreme has broadened, and the middle ground, giving way, is everywhere dislocated and confused. And this enfeeblement of the middle ground, was what was enjoined by the Prophetic example, is in turn accelerated by the opprobrium which the extremists bring not simply upon themselves, but upon committed Muslims everywhere. For here, as elsewhere, the preferences of the media work firmly against us. David Koresh could broadcast his fringe Biblical message from Ranch Apocalypse without the image of Christianity, or even its Adventist wing, being in any way besmirched. But when a fringe Islamic group bombs Swedish tourists in Cairo, the muck is instantly spread over 'militant Muslims' everywhere.

The 'ultras' vochten volgens velen een onzichtbare oorlog tegen een vijand die velen gezichten had en geen, soms zelfs aan hun kant stond, of aan beide.

Met het ineenstorten van de WTC torens hebben alle xenofobe anti-islamisme krachten afstand genomen van oude bondgenoten, zich gemanifesteerd als rechtvaardig en democratisch om hun antipathie voor alles wat te maken heeft met Mohammed of met Allah en niet 'beneficial' is te bestrijden ' in name of humanism.'

Sommigen met pen en papier anderen met M16, granaat en dode Irakie.


If these things go on, the Islamic movement will cease to form an authentic summons to cultural and spiritual renewal, and will exist as little more than a splintered array of maniacal factions. The prospect of such an appalling and humiliating end to the story of a religion which once surpassed all others in its capacity for tolerating debate and dissent is now a real possibility. The entire experience of Islamic work over the past fifteen years has been one of increasing radicalization, driven by the perceived failure of the traditional Islamic institutions and the older Muslim movements to lead the Muslim peoples into the worthy but so far chimerical promised land of the 'Islamic State.'

En ze zullen slagen. Moslims zullen zichzelf gaan schamen voor hun afkomst zoals velen nu al doen. Ze zullen zich gaan afkeren en een andere vorm van spiritualiteit omarmen. Hun "broeders en zusters in verwegistan" de rug toekeren, de andere kant opkijken wanneer hun voormalige religie het mikpunt is van grappen en grollen. Van oorlog, vernietiging en verdelging.

Een andere groep moslims zullen waarschijnlijk zichzelf gaan haten en afdalen naar de laagste treden van de sociaalmaatschappelijke ladderen, hoe hoog of laag ze zich ook mogen bevinden.

Vele Joden haten hun afkomst.



f this final catastrophe is to be averted, the mainstream will have to regain the initiative. But for this to happen, it must begin by confessing that the radical critique of moderation has its force. The Islamic movement has so far been remarkably unsuccessful. We must ask ourselves how it is that a man like Nasser, a butcher, a failed soldier and a cynical demagogue, could have taken over a country as pivotal as Egypt, despite the vacuity of his beliefs, while the Muslim Brotherhood, with its pullulating millions of members, should have failed, and failed continuously, for six decades. The radical accusation of a failure in methodology cannot fail to strike home in such a context of dismal and prolonged inadequacy.


Nasser werd geboren in Alexandrië. Reeds op 16-jarige leeftijd was hij de leider van een studentendemonstratie tegen de Britse invloed in Egypte. Hij volgde een officiersopleiding aan de militaire academie en promoveerde in 1938. In 1942 werd hij als instructeur aangesteld. Kort daarna richtte hij een geheime organisatie op genoemd de Vrije Officieren. In 1948 nam hij deel aan de Arabisch-Israëlische Oorlog van 1948 waarbij hij tevens gewond raakte.

Op 26 juli kondigde hij de nationalisering aan van het Suezkanaal. Dit veroorzaakte de Suezcrisis. Het begon met een gewapend conflict met Israël (Gesteund en aangespoord door de britten het Sinaïschiereiland bezette en doorstootte tot de Gaza en het Suezkanaal. De Fransen en de Britten, die hun belangen in het gebied verloren zagen gaan, eisten de terugtrekking van zowel Egypte als Israël. Toen dat door Nasser afgewezen werd, landden op 5 november troepen van de Brits-Franse coalitie bij het kanaal. Onder druk van zowel de Verenigde Staten als de Sovjet-Unie bij de Verenigde Naties, diende de coalitie echter zijn eisen op te geven en hun troepen terug te trekken. De Israëli's, die het Egyptische leger verslagen hadden, bekwamen in ruil voor hun terugtrekking uit het Sinaïschiereiland de toezegging dat de acties van de Fedayin vanaf Egyptisch grondgebied zouden stoppen. Ondanks het succes van Israël won Nasser heel wat respect binnen de Arabische wereld door zijn onverzettelijke houding ten opzichte van de imperialisten.

Voordat men met "poepbegrippen" als 'inadequacy' komt moet men in de spiegel kijken en aan zichzelf verklaren wat zijn capaciteiten zijn.

Vooral wanneer men zich tot aan zijn oksels in een moeras van inadequacystront bevindt.



It is in this context - startlingly, perhaps, but inescapably - that we must present our case for the revival of the spiritual life within Islam. If it is ever to prosper, the 'Islamic revival' must be made to see that it is in crisis, and that its mental resources are proving insufficient to meet contemporary needs. The response to this must be grounded in an act of collective muhasaba, of self-examination, in terms that transcend the ideologised neo-Islam of the revivalists, and return to a more classical and indigenously Muslim dialectic.


We kunnen inderdaad zoals het voor een grote deel uigestorven Christelijke achterban ons gaan concentreren op een humanistische kijk op het leven. Al die keuzes tussen goed en kwaad kunnen we dan lekker laten uitvechten door diegenen die daar graag tijd voor vrijmaken. Wij ruimen wel de scherven op en stichten zo nu en dan een partij dat voor mishandelde huisdieren opkomt.





Symptomatic of the disease is the fact that among all the explanations offered for the crisis of the Islamic movement, the only authentically Muslim interpretation, namely, that God should not be lending it His support, is conspicuously absent. It is true that we frequently hear the Quranic verse which states that "God does not change the condition of a people until they change the condition of their own selves." [1. Al-Qur'an 13:11.] But never, it seems, is this principle intelligently grasped. It is assumed that the sacred text is here doing no more than to enjoin individual moral reform as a precondition for collective societal success. Nothing could be more hazardous, however, than to measure such moral reform against the yardstick of the fiqh without giving concern to whether the virtues gained have been acquired through conformity (a relatively simple task), or proceed spontaneously from a genuine realignment of the soul. The verse is speaking of a spiritual change, specifically, a transformation of the nafs of the believers - not a moral one. And as the Blessed Prophet never tired of reminding us, there is little value in outward conformity to the rules unless this conformity is mirrored and engendered by an authentically righteous disposition of the heart. 'No-one shall enter the Garden by his works,' as he expressed it. Meanwhile, the profoundly judgemental and works - oriented tenor of modern revivalist Islam (we must shun the problematic buzz-word 'fundamentalism'), fixated on visible manifestations of morality, has failed to address the underlying question of what revelation is for. For it is theological nonsense to suggest that God's final concern is with our ability to conform to a complex set of rules. His concern is rather that we should be restored, through our labours and His grace, to that state of purity and equilibrium with which we were born. The rules are a vital means to that end, and are facilitated by it. But they do not take its place.

Wat de Profeet ons heeft getoond is hoe een leider zijn volk moet leiden ZELFS TEN KOSTE VAN ZICHZELF en niet hoe we ons moeten verstoppen in ivoren torens neerkijkend op hen die in oorlog vastzitten, en vervolgens hen wiens vuisten jeuken vertellen hoe een goede moslim zich wel niet zou moeten gedragen. Hoe lang zijn nagels mogen zijn en hoe hij de wereld beter kan maken.

Als je wereld voor je ogen uit elkaar valt, wanneer je geen brood hebt voor je kinderen, wanneer je huis binnengedrongen wordt door soldaten wiens thuisland je alleen van horen zeggen kent, wanneer je halve familie in balingsschap leeft, wanneer je door 10 paspoortcontroles moet voordat je je geliefde mag zien, wanneer je de bergen in gedrongen wordt, wanneer je vlag bebloedt is met het bloed van je naasten is er geen tijd voor een stukje strakke-moderne-betweterige-imageverbeterende-islam-P.r.

Ik kies voor rechtvaardigheid.

Rourchid
04-09-06, 14:39
Geplaatst door Vriend

Wat de Profeet ons heeft getoond is hoe een leider zijn volk moet leiden ZELFS TEN KOSTE VAN ZICHZELF en niet hoe we ons moeten verstoppen in ivoren torens neerkijkend op hen die in oorlog vastzitten, en vervolgens hen wiens vuisten jeuken vertellen hoe een goede moslim zich wel niet zou moeten gedragen. Hoe lang zijn nagels mogen zijn en hoe hij de wereld beter kan maken.

Als je wereld voor je ogen uit elkaar valt, wanneer je geen brood hebt voor je kinderen, wanneer je huis binnengedrongen wordt door soldaten wiens thuisland je alleen van horen zeggen kent, wanneer je halve familie in balingsschap leeft, wanneer je door 10 paspoortcontroles moet voordat je je geliefde mag zien, wanneer je de bergen in gedrongen wordt, wanneer je vlag bebloedt is met het bloed van je naasten is er geen tijd voor een stukje strakke-moderne-betweterige-imageverbeterende-islam-P.r.

Ik kies voor rechtvaardigheid.


:duim:

Olive Yao
04-09-06, 23:17
Geplaatst door Vriend
Als je wereld voor je ogen uit elkaar valt, wanneer je geen brood hebt voor je kinderen, wanneer je huis binnengedrongen wordt door soldaten wiens thuisland je alleen van horen zeggen kent, wanneer je halve familie in balingsschap leeft, wanneer je door 10 paspoortcontroles moet voordat je je geliefde mag zien, wanneer je de bergen in gedrongen wordt, wanneer je vlag bebloedt is met het bloed van je naasten is er geen tijd voor een stukje strakke-moderne-betweterige-imageverbeterende-islam-P.r.

Ik kies voor rechtvaardigheid.
Zo zo. :argwaan:

En als sji’ieten en soennieten elkaar afslachten;

en als moslims hindoes afslachten zoals in Bangla Desh;

en als arabieren door de eeuwen heen joden vermoorden (http://www.maroc.nl/nieuws/forums/showthread.php?postid=1255083#post1255083);

en als de Taliban in hun moslimse heilstaat zullke smeerlapperij uithalen:

Taliban officials continued to beat women on the streets of Kabul for dress code violations and for venturing outside the home without the company of a close male relative. In Kabul, girls were not permitted to attend school, although primary schools for girls were permitted in other parts of the country. Women's employment remained severely restricted and was generally limited to health care. To ensure that religious practices were strictly enforced, Taliban police continued to arrest men for having beards that were too short, for not attending prayers, and for having shops open during scheduled prayer times.

As in previous years, the Taliban enforced its laws according to its interpretation of Islamic Sharia, with weekly public executions, floggings, and amputations in Kabul stadium and other cities under its control. Several men accused of sodomy were punished by having walls pushed on them by a tank. In one case, a man who survived the ordeal after being left under the rubble for two hours was reportedly allowed to go free.

In September, the Taliban issued new decrees aimed at non-Muslims that forbade them from building places of worship but allowed them to worship at existing holy sites, banned non-Muslims from criticizing Muslims, ordered non-Muslims to identify their houses by placing a yellow cloth on their rooftops, forbade non-Muslims from living in the same residence as Muslims, and required that non-Muslim women wear a yellow dress with a special mark so that Muslims could keep their distance.

Human Rights Watch 1999 (http://www.hrw.org/wr2k/Asia.htm#Afghanistan)

en als Taliban bovendien vliegeren verbieden, want als een jongen in een boom klimt om een verdwaalde vlieger eruit te halen zou hij over een schutting een ongesluierde vrouw kunnen zien; :maf2:

en als moedige moslimse verzetstrijders in zuid Thailand bomaanslagen plegen;

kies je dan ook voor rechtvaardigheid?


Wat de Profeet ons heeft getoond is hoe een leider zijn volk moet leiden ZELFS TEN KOSTE VAN ZICHZELF
Ja? Hoe is t "zijn volk" geworden? Voerde Mohammed oorlog uit zelfverdediging, volgens jou? Volgens mij niet.