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Coolassprov MC
15-06-07, 08:05
Wat er aan vooraf ging...

Is dit wat de westerse media een ''burgeroorlog'' noemt? (http://www.maroc.nl/nieuws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220972)

Fatah nu officiele collaborateursleger van VS en Israel (http://www.maroc.nl/nieuws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221782)



The powerful Hamas move to exert authority in Gaza, and the poor performance and motivation of the larger security forces supposedly loyal to Fatah, raised troubling questions for Mr. Abbas and Israel, and left the White House with a dwindling menu of policy options....Abdullah al-Aqad, 28, of Khan Yunis, said he joined the national security forces to have a job. He marveled at the speed of the Hamas advance. “We are 70,000 P.A. soldiers, and where are they all?” he asked. “And facing 10,000 Hamas soldiers.”...While Fatah blamed Hamas for the crisis, an Israeli analyst of Palestinian affairs, Danny Rubinstein, said the “primary reason for the break-up is the fact that Fatah has refused to fully share the Palestinian Authority’s mechanism of power with its rival Hamas, despite Hamas’s decisive victory in the January 2006 general elections.” Fatah “was forced to overrule Palestinian voters because the entire world demanded it do so,” Mr. Rubinstein added. “Matters have come to the point where Hamas attempted to take by force what they believe they rightfully deserve.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/world/middleeast/14cnd-mideast.html?_r=2&ref=world&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Gaza Turmoil Prompts Abbas to Dissolve Government

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By ISABEL KERSHNER and STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 14, 2007

JERUSALEM, June 14 — The Palestinian territories seemed headed Thursday to a turbulent political divide. Masked Hamas gunmen took control of the Gaza Strip and the Palestinian president dissolved the three-month-old unity government, declaring a state of emergency and plans for elections.
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An aide to President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah announced the decrees, including the firing of Prime Minister Ismail Haniya of Hamas, at a West Bank news conference after Hamas militias overran Fatah strongholds in Gaza, dragging men into the street and shooting them.

The territories that President Bush said he wanted to see become a state before he left office appeared torn asunder.

With Hamas controlling Gaza, it was not clear whether Mr. Abbas had the power to carry out his decrees. A Hamas spokesman in Gaza, Sami Abu Zuhri, dismissed them. “Prime Minister Haniya remains the head of the government even if it was dissolved by the president,” Mr. Zuhri said. “In practical terms, these decisions are worthless.”

Even Mr. Abbas’s supporters were dubious. “An emergency government would be meaningless here,” said Mkhaimar Abusada, a political scientist at the Fatah-affiliated Al Azhar University in Gaza. “It wouldn’t be able to do anything. Hamas is everywhere. That’s the bottom line.”

The scene in Gaza was one of prayerful celebration for Hamas mixed with revenge. Hamas fighters took over the Fatah-run Preventive Security compound, driving away in cars loaded with weapons, computers, office furniture and other equipment.

Bystanders were shocked. Ghassan Hashem, 37, a civil servant, said, “I see Iraq here. There is no mercy. We are afraid. See how ferocious this fight was? There is no future for us.”

Islam Shahwan, a spokesman for the Hamas militia, told Hamas radio triumphantly: “The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived.”

The prime minister of Israel, Ehud Olmert, said: “I call on my friend Abu Mazen,” referring to Mr. Abbas, who was in Ramallah, “to take the opportunity, now that almost the entire world understands the viciousness, the brutality of Hamas, to exercise his authority as the leader of the Palestinian people.”

Israel will do what it can, Mr. Olmert said in an interview, to “be helpful and supportive of the Palestinian people in every possible way, including economic cooperation and security cooperation.”

Mr. Olmert will travel to Washington over the weekend for talks with President Bush, which will focus on the collapse of Fatah in Gaza and Mr. Abbas’s chances of success. Mr. Olmert is expected to tell Mr. Bush that Israel favored sealing off the West Bank from the turmoil in Gaza, continuing to prevent contact between the two territories.

In security terms, Israel would like to seal off Gaza from the West Bank as much as possible, to prevent the spread of Hamas military power there, where Israeli troops still occupy the territory. Israel would also like to confront Hamas with the responsibility for governing Gaza — providing jobs and food and security to people.

Israeli officials suggested that Israel would work with Mr. Abbas and a Fatah government in the West Bank, and could gradually hand over to it the remaining Palestinian tax moneys, about $562 million, withheld since Hamas took power a year ago in March. “To give the money to a Hamas government would be reckless,” one senior Israeli official said. “To give it to a Fatah government is an opportunity.”

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed support for Mr. Abbas’s decrees, saying he had “exercised his lawful authority.” Since Fatah conforms to the international conditions — accepting Israel’s right to exist, all previous Israeli-Palestinian agreements and forswears violence — a government run by it without Hamas would presumably not be subject to international isolation and restrictions.

The United States, Israel and the European Union consider Hamas, which seeks Israel’s destruction, a terrorist group. But it may be very difficult for the United States and the European Union to stop aiding the 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza, no matter who their rulers, and divert all aid through Mr. Abbas, who would have little influence in Gaza.

Some on the Israeli right suggest Gaza is lost and should be treated like southern Lebanon, where Hezbollah rules another kind of mini, semi-state.

But some Palestinians believe that Fatah and Hamas may also come together again. Mr. Abbas says the emergency government will rule until new elections are possible — but Hamas will not accept early elections. And it may be that another Arab government, like Egypt or Saudi Arabia, will soon step in to try to patch together the nascent Palestinian state, which is in danger of collapsing.

Coolassprov MC
15-06-07, 08:07
Fatah's Gaza Strip strongman Mohammad Dahlan is in Cairo recovering from knee surgery. Another powerful security chief, Rashid Abu Shibak, fled Gaza City last month after a sunrise attack on his family's home.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/14/wgaza214.xml

amas tightens the noose in Gaza

By Charles Levinson in Gaza City
Last Updated: 2:43am BST 15/06/2007

# Audio: Charles Levinson describes the moment a peace march came under fire
# Video: Hamas gunmen take control of Gaza

The radical Islamic party Hamas tightened the noose around the remnants of its moderate rival Fatah yesterday in the battle for control of the Palestinian government.

Hamas and Fatah fighters clash in Gaza City; the radical Islamic party Hamas tightened the noose around the remnants of its moderate rival Fatah yesterday in the battle for control of the Palestinian government
Mahmoud Abbas urged Hamas to end the violence

For the third day in a row, Hamas fighters had the upper hand in the struggle with the government's Fatah-loyalist security forces.

They blew up a Fatah-controlled security headquarters in the south Gaza town of Khan Younis and seized a checkpoint on a vital main road.

At least 69 Palestinians have been killed since Sunday in what now appears to be an unrestrained civil war.

In Gaza City, the nerve centre of the Palestinian territories, a clan allied to the security forces surrendered their arms after three days of fighting with Hamas's well-armed and disciplined fighters.

President Mahmoud Abbas called the fighting "madness" a day after suspending his Fatah party's participation in the three-month- old Palestinian unity government.

Mr Abbas urged Hamas to end the violence, but the faction said its offensive would continue and vowed to conquer Mr Abbas's seaside Gaza headquarters, the ultimate symbol of power in the Gaza Strip.

"Any place that commits any kind of aggression against Hamas has to be targeted," said Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman. "Abbas's compound now is a place for this terrorism and these violent groups and these Fatah militias."

As Hamas consolidated control over the northern and southern Gaza Strip, at least 40 Fatah fighters fled to Egypt, fearing for their lives, security sources said.

"Hamas is becoming more and more strong," Mr Barhoum added. "After we finish off these Fatah militias, then everything will become more and more stable."

Hamas fighters during clashes in Gaza City yesterday
Hamas fighters during clashes in Gaza City yesterday

Fatah has vowed to launch a counter offensive that will crush their Hamas rivals, but no such attack has occurred. Instead, its rudderless forces appear to be disintegrating in the face of what seems to be a long-planned and well co-ordinated Hamas assault.

In a sign of how long they have prepared for the offensive, Hamas militants blew up a security headquarters in Khan Younis yesterday by placing explosives at the end of a 220-yard tunnel which would have required weeks or months to dig. For much of the past year there have been repeated reports that Hamas was arming itself with weapons smuggled into the Gaza Strip through tunnels from Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.

Fatah, meanwhile, has pleaded with Egypt and other moderate Arab allies to send arms, but Israel has blocked the shipments.

Fatah's Gaza Strip strongman Mohammad Dahlan is in Cairo recovering from knee surgery. Another powerful security chief, Rashid Abu Shibak, fled Gaza City last month after a sunrise attack on his family's home.

Meanwhile, life for ordinary Palestinians in the Gaza Strip threatens to become even worse as the United Nations refugee agency announced that it was stopping food distributions to more than 700,000 people after two of its employees were killed in the crossfire.

John Ging, the head of the agency's Gaza operations, said the fighting was "unprecedented in scale and nature". A protest march by Palestinians in Gaza City and Khan Younis which called on militants from both sides to halt the bloodshed ended in violence when gunmen fired on the unarmed demonstrators. "History will judge you and the generations will not forgive you," a protest banner in Gaza City warned the Palestinians' fractured leadership.

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, yesterday suggested deploying an international force along Gaza's border with Egypt to staunch the flow of smuggled arms to the militants.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/06/14/wgaza214b.jpg

Coolassprov MC
15-06-07, 08:08
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article1929392.ece

Gaza lurches towards Islamist mini-state

Coolassprov MC
15-06-07, 23:41
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/14/AR2007061402098.html?hpid=topnews

Takeover by Hamas Illustrates Failure of Bush's Mideast Vision

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 15, 2007; Page A18

Five years ago this month, President Bush stood in the Rose Garden and laid out a vision for the Middle East that included Israel and a state called Palestine living together in peace. "I call on the Palestinian people to elect new leaders, leaders not compromised by terror," the president declared.

The takeover this week of the Gaza Strip by the Hamas militant group dedicated to the elimination of Israel demonstrates how much that vision has failed to materialize, in part because of actions taken by the administration. The United States championed Israel's departure from the Gaza Strip as a first step toward peace and then pressed both Israelis and Palestinians to schedule legislative elections, which Hamas unexpectedly won. Now Hamas is the unchallenged power in Gaza.

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After his reelection in 2004, Bush said he would use his "political capital" to help create a Palestinian state by the end of his second term. In his final 18 months as president, he faces the prospect of a shattered Palestinian Authority, a radical Islamic state on Israel's border and increasingly dwindling options to turn the tide against Hamas and create a functioning Palestinian state.

"The two-state vision is dead. It really is," said Edward G. Abington Jr., a former State Department official who was once an adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

Abbas, whose bouts of vacillation have irritated U.S. officials, yesterday dissolved the Palestinian government in response to Hamas's takeover of Gaza. U.S. officials signaled that they will move quickly to persuade an international peace monitoring group -- known as the Quartet -- to lift aid restrictions on the Palestinian government, allowing direct aid to flow to the West Bank-based emergency government that Abbas will lead.

"There is no more Hamas-led government. It is gone," said a senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the administration must still consult with other members of the Quartet. He said that humanitarian aid will continue to Gaza, but that the dissolution of the Palestinian government is a singular moment that will allow the United States and its allies to create a "new model of engagement."

The evolving U.S. strategy would let the Hamas-run Gaza Strip fend for itself while attempting to bolster Abbas as a moderate leader who can actually govern and deliver peace with Israel. The senior administration official noted that Gaza has no territorial issues with Israel, since there are no Israelis in Gaza, so the Hamas entity there would have no stake in potential peace talks concerning the border on the West Bank.

Referring to Abbas, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters yesterday that "we fully support him in his decision to try and end this crisis for the Palestinian people and to give them an opportunity to return to peace and a better future."

But analysts said yesterday that this strategy of dividing the moderates from the extremists -- which was the core of Bush's 2002 speech -- proved ineffective and may have led to the dilemma facing the administration.

"The less we try to intervene and shape Palestinian politics, the better off we will be," said Robert Malley, an expert on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with the International Crisis Group. "Almost every decision the United States has made to interfere with Palestinian politics has boomeranged."

Bush made his speech at the height of a bloody Palestinian uprising, after concluding that then-Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was too tied to terrorism to make peace. Bush ordered U.S. diplomats to never again meet with Arafat.

Under international pressure, Arafat agreed to name Abbas as a newly empowered prime minister in 2003. But Abbas quit within months, saying he never got enough support from the United States or Israel to be effective.

When Arafat died at the end of 2004, Abbas won the elections to replace him as president of the Palestinian Authority. Despite deep Israeli misgivings, the United States encouraged Abbas to hold Palestinian legislative elections -- and Abbas invited Hamas to participate, believing he could beat them at the polls. But Hamas won, giving Hamas control of the cabinet and of the powerful prime minister's post that had been created at the behest of the United States.

Then, Washington organized a financial boycott of the government, in an effort to showcase Abbas as a moderate alternative in his role as president. But the financial squeeze engendered Palestinian ill will toward the West, not Hamas, and Abbas earlier this year agreed to a unity government with his opponents. The United States had just begun delivering nonlethal aid and training to security forces loyal to Abbas when Hamas decided to strike and seize Gaza.

"The people who are moderate are not effective," said David Makovsky of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "And the people who are effective are not moderate."

Rice has been to Jerusalem four times since December, seeking to rekindle peace talks and to help the Palestinians and Israelis discuss what she called the "political horizon" -- the contours of a Palestinian state. But the discussions never progressed far, largely because of the political weakness of Abbas and his Israeli counterpart.

Before the Hamas takeover of Gaza, Bush and his aides had debated whether the president should make a speech marking the fifth anniversary of his Middle East address, on June 24, in part to rebut criticism that his administration has accomplished little to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Aides say now that those plans are up in the air. It is not clear what the president would say

observer
16-06-07, 00:02
wow cool

je praat tegen jezelf

wat wil je nu hier mee bewijzen?

Shemharosh
16-06-07, 07:19
Moet Israel weer het vuile werk gaan opknappen....of gaat Egypte Gaza annexeren en iedereen laten zien hoe het echt grondig moet

observer
16-06-07, 16:44
Geplaatst door Shemharosh
Moet Israel weer het vuile werk gaan opknappen....of gaat Egypte Gaza annexeren en iedereen laten zien hoe het echt grondig moet herannexeren het was pre 67 gewoon deel van egypte

maar het zou wel de beste oplossing zijn

nu is het voor de israeli wel heel simpel iedereen met een wapen is van hamas, hoeven niet meer te checken of het niet de politie is (al deden ze dat geloof ik toch al niet zo secuur)

Shemharosh
17-06-07, 09:44
ja denk het ook...Hamas is een grootere gevaar voor Egypte dan voor Isreal...ik denk ook dat ze Gaza bij haar natuurlijke achterland zullen voegen de Sinai...zal de Gazawi's goed doen...over een jaar of 2 gaat DJ Tiesto daar op Sensation Green draaien

ronald
17-06-07, 13:35
Geplaatst door Shemharosh
Moet Israel weer het vuile werk gaan opknappen....of gaat Egypte Gaza annexeren en iedereen laten zien hoe het echt grondig moet


Dank u wel... liever de 2de optie met en een kanaal tussen de grenzen en een muur net zo hoog als diep.