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StevieK
04-10-07, 07:02
Churchill on Islam

Since politicians and neocons like to make themselves seem strong when responding to Muslim terrorism by joining themselves to the ghost of Winston Churchill, it would be appropriate to see what Churchill himself thought about Islam. This is from his 1899 book, The River War, written when he was 24 years old:

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.…A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities ... but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome. [The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pp. 248-50.]


bron :http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/004826.html

rami_elharrak
04-10-07, 18:35
:kotsen2:
Before making a fool of himself, Churhil should ve taken some lessons in Sciences during the islamic rule, history of the countries ruled by moslims, and maybe he ll have a better view!! But then who was churchil, if not a gready bastard that needed not much to become a second hitler!!
He couldn t live without war and yet was soooo ugly an uneducated to use such terms while talking about The religion billions of people are following , the rligion based on science, equality, peace and recongision of the two other religions!!

We ll never get enough surprises from those we once saw as heros!!
You never know a man until you read his mind or get to uncover his deep thaughts.

Sallahddin
04-10-07, 18:36
Nu afwachten wanneer wordt "ontdekt" wat Hitler over de Islam dachtte! :lol: = very predictable , gezien zijn eigen "Nazi_doctrine_religie" !

Wouldn't make a bit of a difference , right ??? :rotpc:

who gives a ... what Churchil or any Goddamned other person thinks of ...Islam ! :lol:



P.S.: wat wel telt is wat Islam zelf over die "gasten" "denkt ", beoordeelt, evalueert , plat gezegd..... things like that ! :lol:

observer
04-10-07, 20:15
Geplaatst door rami_elharrak
:kotsen2:
Before making a fool of himself, Churhil should ve taken some lessons in Sciences during the islamic rule, history of the countries ruled by moslims, and maybe he ll have a better view!! het zou al beter klinken ware het niet dat elke reclame tegenwoordig eindigd met "resultaten in het verleden"en als er wat recentre resultaten waren om mee te pronken, dat ooit de islamitische wereld grote hoogten op kunst etc bereikten prachtig, maar dat was 500 jaar plus geleden

Al Sawt
04-10-07, 23:28
Geplaatst door observer
het zou al beter klinken ware het niet dat elke reclame tegenwoordig eindigd met "resultaten in het verleden"en als er wat recentre resultaten waren om mee te pronken, dat ooit de islamitische wereld grote hoogten op kunst etc bereikten prachtig, maar dat was 500 jaar plus geleden

Observer,

Ik heb een vraag: Wat is jouw achterliggende gedachte om bezig te houden met de Islam en niveau van beschaving van de Islamitische wereld?

rami_elharrak
05-10-07, 00:58
B]Nu afwachten wanneer wordt "ontdekt" wat Hitler over de Islam

:denk:

A: Hitler: een oorlog fanatiek.
B: Churchil ook.

A:Hitler: wilde een groooooote Duitsland bouwen, wel vanuit europa.
B: Churchil ook ,alleen he maakte geen verschil tussen buren landen en verre landen.

Samenvatting: Ik bedoelde Niet hun vesie over ISLAM!!
I hope you ll get it, if not.......i m sorry for ya!

observer
05-10-07, 09:48
Geplaatst door Al Sawt
Observer,

Ik heb een vraag: Wat is jouw achterliggende gedachte om bezig te houden met de Islam en niveau van beschaving van de Islamitische wereld? geen ik concludeer slechts dat men een nogal zwak argument gebruikt, ongeveer hetzelfde als dat de italianen zouden claimen sterren te zijn op basis van wegenbouw op basis van de via appia


and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled overigens is dit (oke het 2e deel niet) ook een redelijk zwakzinnig statement.