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Willem van Buren
02-12-08, 16:32
Kfar Chabad - Duizenden Israëliërs hebben de uitvaartplechtigheid bijgewoond van de zes joodse slachtoffers van de terreuractie in het Indiase Mumbai. Verschillende kopstukken uit de Israëlische politiek waren er ook bij, onder wie president Peres, minister van Defensie Barak en oppositieleider Netanyahu.

De zes kwamen om na een gijzelingsactie van terroristen in een joods centrum. De rabbijn die het centrum leidde werd gedood, evenals zijn vrouw. Hun 2-jarige zoontje overleefde het drama. Verder werden nog twee Israëliërs gedood die in het complex aanwezig waren en twee joden uit de Verenigde Staten en Mexico.

Bron: Wereldomroep

ronald
03-12-08, 01:35
Kfar Chabad - Duizenden Israëliërs hebben de uitvaartplechtigheid bijgewoond van de zes joodse slachtoffers van de terreuractie in het Indiase Mumbai. Verschillende kopstukken uit de Israëlische politiek waren er ook bij, onder wie president Peres, minister van Defensie Barak en oppositieleider Netanyahu.

De zes kwamen om na een gijzelingsactie van terroristen in een joods centrum. De rabbijn die het centrum leidde werd gedood, evenals zijn vrouw. Hun 2-jarige zoontje overleefde het drama. Verder werden nog twee Israëliërs gedood die in het complex aanwezig waren en twee joden uit de Verenigde Staten en Mexico.

Bron: Wereldomroep

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ahmedabad/An_open_letter_to_Moshe_/articleshow/3781710.cms

An open letter to Moshe
2 Dec 2008,

Dear Moshe,


My heart went out to you when I saw you on television, as your Indian nanny carried you out of Nariman House or Chabad House or shall we say Sabbath House, as it was almost the Sabbath, the day of your liberation. It was hard to figure out as to what was going on, as there were so many people around you. You looked visibly frightened. You did not understand what was going on and clung to your nanny, although your eyes were searching for your parents' comforting presence.

At such a young age, you were already a captive, maybe a tiny hostage in last week's madness. You must have seen so much, maybe then you were in your mother's lap and she must have tried to keep you quiet, whispering comforting words in your ears, so that you would not start crying and annoy the terrorists. At that moment you were just a baby not a Jew, as that is how the terrorists had held your family captive, just because they were Jewish. They had tracked down your family's identity and overnight made you into an orphan. Wonder what made them release you? Did they soften or think that you were a harmless baby or did they want to separate you from your parents, or did they want you to live, so that you would always remember those horrifying days. What a heart-wrenching scene it must have been, to tear you apart from your mother's bosom. Maybe your parents must have let you go as they wanted to save you from the claws of sure death.

Then there was the passage of time when you left Chabad House with your nanny leaving your parents behind. Till they died, they must have never known if you were alive or dead as there was no way of knowing the truth. Your father was a rabbi, well versed in the Hebrew prayers of life and death, and he must have asked the Lord to protect you from such terrifying violence. They say, the death of your parents was a message to the Jews of the Diaspora. But then, Jews as a race have always faced violence throughout history.

Little Moshe, as you leave India with your grandparents to live in Israel, you will again come face to face with bloodshed and violence. Wonder if you will avenge your parents' death or will you work for peace?

Your parents named you Moshe, meaning Moses, and your story is similar to the one in the Bible, where Moses was left to drift in the river Nile, to save him from the Pharaoh's sword and how he became the prince of Egypt and led the Jewish people to freedom. Maybe, you will also choose the path of freedom and peace. Because, you survived in India, the only country in the world where Jews were never persecuted and with your survival, I experience an iota of hope in this terrifying medley of hate, violence and death.

You are just two years old and maybe all you have learnt to say so far, is shalom peace be with you' .

ronald
03-12-08, 01:57
Je kon erop wachten...


http://www.hotklix.com./

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pak_TV_channel_says_2611_hatched_by_Hindu_Zionists/articleshow/3785654.cms

Pak TV channel says 26/11 hatched by Hindu Zionists

2 Dec 2008, 2216 hrs IST, Nandita Sengupta, TNN


NEW DELHI: Mumbai's 26/11 was actually a plan hatched by "Hindu Zionists" and "Western Zionists", including the Mossad, said a self-styled
Pakistan security expert on a Pakistan news television show, uploaded on www.hotklix.com.

" Inki shaklein Hinduonwali hain, jis zabaan mein guftagoo kar rahein hain, woh zabaan koi Pakistani istemaal nahin karta hai (They look like Hindus. No Pakistani speaks the language they chatted in)," said Zaid Hamid while referring to the terrorists on the show Mujhe Ikhtilaf Hai (I differ) on Pakistan's News One channel. The sensationalist channel was launched in November last year.

Hamid said that it was a "badly planned" operation that had gone horribly wrong. "9/11 jo Americans ne kiya tha usko bahut khoobsurat camouflage kiya tha. Unhone media mein perception management bahut acchha kiya . Indians ne wahi game repeat karne ki koshish ki, lekin akal to hai nahin . In ahmakon ne complete disaster kiya isko handle karne mein . (The Americans executed the 9/11 attack perfectly. They managed the media very well. The Indians tried to repeat the formula but goofed up. The idiots made a complete mess of it).

He said that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist bands, which no Muslim would tie. Hamid also said that within the first 5 minutes of the attack, the three ATS policemen investigating the network of terror within India's security agencies and radical right were killed.

That ensured that those investigations reach a dead end. Anchor Qudsia Qadri added that with their killings, the investigations into the Samjhauta Express carnage would be halted. The killings also immediately shifted attention from India's domestic terrorists to Pakistan, said Hamid.

Marvi Memon, glamorous Pakistan Muslim League member, on the same programme, was appalled at the Pakistan government's expansion of the "India-appeasement package" by initially agreeing to send ISI chief to India. "I just don't get it," she exclaimed in exasperation.

She wondered how can you send the ISI chief to a " mulk jiske sath jang chal raha hai ...at a different level...," mentioning Kashmir and accusing India of blocking Pakistan's waters. Memon said, "They (Indians) are quite obsessed with anti-Pakistan speak and that unites them," she said. Memon also spoke about India's separatist movements and believed that India was only reaping the bitter harvest of the poisonous seeds it had sowed.

Blogger daily.pk writes in pakalert.wordpress.com, "India has been relapsing into religious extremism and numerous separatist movement have mushroomed due to official patronage ...I see the Mumbai bombings as the desperate move of separatists who want to blame everything on Muslims."

It's not only random voices railing against fingers pointing to Pakistan. Blogger and journalist Farrukh Khan Pitafi is miffed. "For years I have been advocating peace between India and Pakistan," he wrote. But he, too, says that India was out of its mind in naming Pakistan as the source of violence without identification of the perpetrators.

He wrote: "During such a long coverage of the mishap not a single outlet pointed out that Hemant Karkare... was the same man whose dismissal was Narendra Modi's biggest demand. Or that he was the man on the verge of uncovering the home-grown terror franchise of the Hindu extremists. No channel mentioned Colonel Purohit once during the live telecast, no not even CNN, BBC or CBS. It is sad."

Willem van Buren
03-12-08, 18:17
Ze hebben nu geeist dat de daders en verantwoordelijken worden uitgeleverd door Pakistan, ben benieuwd hoe dit word opgelost.

VerbalSmaeel
04-12-08, 19:17
Gepubliceerd in Haaretz op 2 december:

Arye Leib Teitelbaum, one of the Israelis killed in Mumbai, whose family asked not to cover his coffin with the state flag before flying it to Israel. Teitelbaum was a Satmar Hasid and his family are Neturei Karta people, who see the very establishment of the Israeli state as fundamental heresy and a refusal to accept the Kingdom of Heaven.

ronald
04-12-08, 21:09
Gepubliceerd in Haaretz op 2 december:

Arye Leib Teitelbaum, one of the Israelis killed in Mumbai, whose family asked not to cover his coffin with the state flag before flying it to Israel. Teitelbaum was a Satmar Hasid and his family are Neturei Karta people, who see the very establishment of the Israeli state as fundamental heresy and a refusal to accept the Kingdom of Heaven.

Nee natuurlijk niet. De familie had het nog altijd voor het zeggen hoe de begrafenis geregeld moest zijn. Rabbijn Teitelbaum is vermoord omdat hij Jood was. Er zijn dus nog altijd "strijders" die menen dat een zekere strijd die ze denken te moeten voeren tegen het Zionisme alle Joden vogelvrij maakt. Zo wordt antizionisme antisemitisme.

ferrari
04-12-08, 22:22
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ahmedabad/An_open_letter_to_Moshe_/articleshow/3781710.cms

An open letter to Moshe
2 Dec 2008,

Dear Moshe,

(...)

Your parents named you Moshe, meaning Moses, and your story is similar to the one in the Bible, where Moses was left to drift in the river Nile, to save him from the Pharaoh's sword and how he became the prince of Egypt and led the Jewish people to freedom. Maybe, you will also choose the path of freedom and peace. Because, you survived in India, the only country in the world where Jews were never persecuted and with your survival, I experience an iota of hope in this terrifying medley of hate, violence and death.

Mooi geschreven :huil:

Slinger
05-12-08, 06:14
Gepubliceerd in Haaretz op 2 december:

Arye Leib Teitelbaum, one of the Israelis killed in Mumbai, whose family asked not to cover his coffin with the state flag before flying it to Israel. Teitelbaum was a Satmar Hasid and his family are Neturei Karta people, who see the very establishment of the Israeli state as fundamental heresy and a refusal to accept the Kingdom of Heaven.

Toch heeft de staat Israël ook hen proberen te beschermen, hoewel het in dit geval niet gelukt is. Er is ook nog gemeld dat de Joden voordat ze door de terroristen werden gedood gruwelijk gemarteld waren.

Spoetnik
05-12-08, 14:39
Toch heeft de staat Israël ook hen proberen te beschermen, hoewel het in dit geval niet gelukt is. Er is ook nog gemeld dat de Joden voordat ze door de terroristen werden gedood gruwelijk gemarteld waren.

De vraag is waarom dat gemeld is, tis namelijk niet waar.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702405844&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

mark61
05-12-08, 15:03
Nee natuurlijk niet. De familie had het nog altijd voor het zeggen hoe de begrafenis geregeld moest zijn. Rabbijn Teitelbaum is vermoord omdat hij Jood was. Er zijn dus nog altijd "strijders" die menen dat een zekere strijd die ze denken te moeten voeren tegen het Zionisme alle Joden vogelvrij maakt. Zo wordt antizionisme antisemitisme.

Die 'strijders' vermoordden ook moslims indiscriminately, dus maak je geen specifiek zorgen.

mark61
05-12-08, 15:04
Mooi geschreven :huil:

Al is het onwaar. Er zijn wel meer landen waar joden nooit vervolgd zijn.

mark61
05-12-08, 15:08
Ze hebben nu geeist dat de daders en verantwoordelijken worden uitgeleverd door Pakistan, ben benieuwd hoe dit word opgelost.

Nee, dat is een oud verlanglijstje met mensen die niets met de laatste ellende te maken hebben.