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IbnRushd
06-01-09, 15:21
Top 5 lies about Israel’s assault on Gaza


by Jeremy R. Hammond / January 3rd, 2009

Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated pieces of property in the world. The presence of militants within a civilian population does not, under international law, deprive that population of their protected status, and hence any assault upon that population under the guise of targeting militants is, in fact, a war crime.

Moreover, the people Israel claims are legitimate targets are members of Hamas, which Israel says is a terrorist organization. Hamas has been responsible for firing rockets into Israel. These rockets are extremely inaccurate and thus, even if Hamas intended to hit military targets within Israel, are indiscriminate by nature. When rockets from Gaza kill Israeli civilians, it is a war crime.

Hamas has a military wing. However, it is not entirely a military organization, but a political one. Members of Hamas are the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people. Dozens of these elected leaders have been kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons without charge. Others have been targeted for assassination, such as Nizar Rayan, a top Hamas official. To kill Rayan, Israel targeted a residential apartment building. The strike not only killed Rayan but two of his wives and four of his children, along with six others. There is no justification for such an attack under international law. This was a war crime.

Other of Israel’s bombardment with protected status under international law have included a mosque, a prison, police stations, and a university, in addition to residential buildings.

Moreover, Israel has long held Gaza under siege, allowing only the most minimal amounts of humanitarian supplies to enter. Israel is bombing and killing Palestinian civilians. Countless more have been wounded, and cannot receive medical attention. Hospitals running on generators have little or no fuel. Doctors have no proper equipment or medical supplies to treat the injured. These people, too, are the victims of Israeli policies targeted not at Hamas or legitimate military targets, but directly designed to punish the civilian population.

Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.

Israel never observed the cease-fire to begin with. From the beginning, it announced a “special security zone” within the Gaza Strip and announced that Palestinians who enter this zone will be fired upon. In other words, Israel announced its intention that Israeli soldiers would shoot at farmers and other individuals attempting to reach their own land in direct violation of not only the cease-fire but international law.

Despite shooting incidents, including ones resulting in Palestinians getting injured, Hamas still held to the cease-fire from the time it went into effect on June 19 until Israel effectively ended the truce on November 4 by launching an airstrike into Gaza that killed five and injured several others.

Israel’s violation of the cease-fire predictably resulted in retaliation from militants in Gaza who fired rockets into Israel in response. The increased barrage of rocket fire at the end of December is being used as justification for the continued Israeli bombardment, but is a direct response by militants to the Israeli attacks.

Israel’s actions, including its violation of the cease-fire, predictably resulted in an escalation of rocket attacks against its own population.

Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.

There has been no evidence that Hamas has used human shields. The fact is, as previously noted, Gaza is a small piece of property that is densely populated. Israel engages in indiscriminate warfare such as the assassination of Nizar Rayan, in which members of his family were also murdered. It is victims like his dead children that Israel defines as “human shields” in its propaganda. There is no legitimacy for this interpretation under international law. In circumstances such as these, Hamas is not using human shields, Israel is committing war crimes in violation of the Geneva Conventions and other applicable international law.

Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.

The populations of those Arab countries are outraged at Israel’s actions and at their own governments for not condemning Israel’s assault and acting to end the violence. Simply stated, the Arab governments do not represent their respective Arab populations. The populations of the Arab nations have staged mass protests in opposition to not only Israel’s actions but also the inaction of their own governments and what they view as either complacency or complicity in Israel’s crimes.

Moreover, the refusal of Arab nations to take action to come to the aid of the Palestinians is not because they agree with Israel’s actions, but because they are submissive to the will of the US, which fully supports Israel. Egypt, for instance, which refused to open the border to allow Palestinians wounded in the attacks to get medical treatment in Egyptian hospitals, is heavily dependent upon US aid, and is being widely criticized within the population of the Arab countries for what is viewed as an absolute betrayal of the Gaza Palestinians.

Even Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been regarded as a traitor to his own people for blaming Hamas for the suffering of the people of Gaza. Palestinians are also well aware of Abbas’ past perceived betrayals in conniving with Israel and the US to sideline the democratically elected Hamas government, culminating in a counter-coup by Hamas in which it expelled Fatah (the military wing of Abbas’ Palestine Authority) from the Gaza Strip. While his apparent goal was to weaken Hamas and strengthen his own position, the Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East are so outraged at Abbas that it is unlikely he will be able to govern effectively.

Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.

Israel claims it sent radio and telephone text messages to residents of Gaza warning them to flee from the coming bombardment. But the people of Gaza have nowhere to flee to. They are trapped within the Gaza Strip. It is by Israeli design that they cannot escape across the border. It is by Israeli design that they have no food, water, or fuel by which to survive. It is by Israeli design that hospitals in Gaza have no electricity and few medical supplies with which to treat the injured and save lives. And Israel has bombed vast areas of Gaza, targeting civilian infrastructure and other sites with protected status under international law. No place is safe within the Gaza Strip.

-bron (http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/top-5-lies-about-israel%E2%80%99s-assault-on-gaza/)-

nour_islam
07-01-09, 10:16
Top 5 lies about Israel’s assault on Gaza


by Jeremy R. Hammond / January 3rd, 2009

Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated pieces of property in the world. The presence of militants within a civilian population does not, under international law, deprive that population of their protected status, and hence any assault upon that population under the guise of targeting militants is, in fact, a war crime.

Moreover, the people Israel claims are legitimate targets are members of Hamas, which Israel says is a terrorist organization. Hamas has been responsible for firing rockets into Israel. These rockets are extremely inaccurate and thus, even if Hamas intended to hit military targets within Israel, are indiscriminate by nature. When rockets from Gaza kill Israeli civilians, it is a war crime.

Hamas has a military wing. However, it is not entirely a military organization, but a political one. Members of Hamas are the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people. Dozens of these elected leaders have been kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons without charge. Others have been targeted for assassination, such as Nizar Rayan, a top Hamas official. To kill Rayan, Israel targeted a residential apartment building. The strike not only killed Rayan but two of his wives and four of his children, along with six others. There is no justification for such an attack under international law. This was a war crime.

Other of Israel’s bombardment with protected status under international law have included a mosque, a prison, police stations, and a university, in addition to residential buildings.

Moreover, Israel has long held Gaza under siege, allowing only the most minimal amounts of humanitarian supplies to enter. Israel is bombing and killing Palestinian civilians. Countless more have been wounded, and cannot receive medical attention. Hospitals running on generators have little or no fuel. Doctors have no proper equipment or medical supplies to treat the injured. These people, too, are the victims of Israeli policies targeted not at Hamas or legitimate military targets, but directly designed to punish the civilian population.

Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.

Israel never observed the cease-fire to begin with. From the beginning, it announced a “special security zone” within the Gaza Strip and announced that Palestinians who enter this zone will be fired upon. In other words, Israel announced its intention that Israeli soldiers would shoot at farmers and other individuals attempting to reach their own land in direct violation of not only the cease-fire but international law.

Despite shooting incidents, including ones resulting in Palestinians getting injured, Hamas still held to the cease-fire from the time it went into effect on June 19 until Israel effectively ended the truce on November 4 by launching an airstrike into Gaza that killed five and injured several others.

Israel’s violation of the cease-fire predictably resulted in retaliation from militants in Gaza who fired rockets into Israel in response. The increased barrage of rocket fire at the end of December is being used as justification for the continued Israeli bombardment, but is a direct response by militants to the Israeli attacks.

Israel’s actions, including its violation of the cease-fire, predictably resulted in an escalation of rocket attacks against its own population.

Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.

There has been no evidence that Hamas has used human shields. The fact is, as previously noted, Gaza is a small piece of property that is densely populated. Israel engages in indiscriminate warfare such as the assassination of Nizar Rayan, in which members of his family were also murdered. It is victims like his dead children that Israel defines as “human shields” in its propaganda. There is no legitimacy for this interpretation under international law. In circumstances such as these, Hamas is not using human shields, Israel is committing war crimes in violation of the Geneva Conventions and other applicable international law.

Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.

The populations of those Arab countries are outraged at Israel’s actions and at their own governments for not condemning Israel’s assault and acting to end the violence. Simply stated, the Arab governments do not represent their respective Arab populations. The populations of the Arab nations have staged mass protests in opposition to not only Israel’s actions but also the inaction of their own governments and what they view as either complacency or complicity in Israel’s crimes.

Moreover, the refusal of Arab nations to take action to come to the aid of the Palestinians is not because they agree with Israel’s actions, but because they are submissive to the will of the US, which fully supports Israel. Egypt, for instance, which refused to open the border to allow Palestinians wounded in the attacks to get medical treatment in Egyptian hospitals, is heavily dependent upon US aid, and is being widely criticized within the population of the Arab countries for what is viewed as an absolute betrayal of the Gaza Palestinians.

Even Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been regarded as a traitor to his own people for blaming Hamas for the suffering of the people of Gaza. Palestinians are also well aware of Abbas’ past perceived betrayals in conniving with Israel and the US to sideline the democratically elected Hamas government, culminating in a counter-coup by Hamas in which it expelled Fatah (the military wing of Abbas’ Palestine Authority) from the Gaza Strip. While his apparent goal was to weaken Hamas and strengthen his own position, the Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East are so outraged at Abbas that it is unlikely he will be able to govern effectively.

Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.

Israel claims it sent radio and telephone text messages to residents of Gaza warning them to flee from the coming bombardment. But the people of Gaza have nowhere to flee to. They are trapped within the Gaza Strip. It is by Israeli design that they cannot escape across the border. It is by Israeli design that they have no food, water, or fuel by which to survive. It is by Israeli design that hospitals in Gaza have no electricity and few medical supplies with which to treat the injured and save lives. And Israel has bombed vast areas of Gaza, targeting civilian infrastructure and other sites with protected status under international law. No place is safe within the Gaza Strip.

-bron (http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/top-5-lies-about-israel%E2%80%99s-assault-on-gaza/)-

valt niets op af te dingen
en toch blijven er mensen die de feiten op allerlei maniere proberen te manipuleren om deze misdaden te rechtvaardigen.

JHvandenHeuvel
07-01-09, 10:24
valt niets op af te dingen
en toch blijven er mensen die de feiten op allerlei maniere proberen te manipuleren om deze misdaden te rechtvaardigen.

Tot aan de president van het uitverkoren volk toe. Deze schurk toonde zijn ware karakter door in een persconferentie aan te halen dat de Palestijnen 'hun kinderen maar beter moeten beschermen' want dat doet Israel ook.

Onvoorstelbaar, dat dit soort regelrechte viespeukerij en misdadigheid door het staatshoofd van Israel worden goedgepraat. Dit zijn dezelfde jongens die iedere keer krokodillentranen zitten te huilen als iemand de Holocaust zit te ontkennen maar ze zijn zelf geen ene haar beter.

Zal maar ophouden om de Holocaust erbij te halen want er zijn mensen op dit forum die iets pas echt een misdaad tegen de menselijkheid vinden als het gemiddeld aantal doden per uur even hoog ligt als in die jaren 1939-1945.

Het is onvoorstelbaar, en, let op mijn woorden, net als alle voorgaande keren komt de schurkenstaat Israel er gewoon mee weg. De beschieting van de VN-scholen verdwijnt via een zogenaamd "onafhankelijk" onderzoek in dezelfde doofpot als waarin Beit Hanout is verdwenen en de VS spreken hun zoveelste veto ten gunste van het Heilige Land uit.

Er is ooit een stel schoften in Neurenberg opgehangen vanwege misdaden tegen de menselijkheid of het goedpraten daarvan. Meneer Peres mag er wat mij betreft, na zijn uitspraken van gisteren, zo naast.

nour_islam
07-01-09, 10:38
Tot aan de president van het uitverkoren volk toe. Deze schurk toonde zijn ware karakter door in een persconferentie aan te halen dat de Palestijnen 'hun kinderen maar beter moeten beschermen' want dat doet Israel ook.

Onvoorstelbaar, dat dit soort regelrechte viespeukerij en misdadigheid door het staatshoofd van Israel worden goedgepraat. Dit zijn dezelfde jongens die iedere keer krokodillentranen zitten te huilen als iemand de Holocaust zit te ontkennen maar ze zijn zelf geen ene haar beter.

Zal maar ophouden om de Holocaust erbij te halen want er zijn mensen op dit forum die iets pas echt een misdaad tegen de menselijkheid vinden als het gemiddeld aantal doden per uur even hoog ligt als in die jaren 1939-1945.

Het is onvoorstelbaar, en, let op mijn woorden, net als alle voorgaande keren komt de schurkenstaat Israel er gewoon mee weg. De beschieting van de VN-scholen verdwijnt via een zogenaamd "onafhankelijk" onderzoek in dezelfde doofpot als waarin Beit Hanout is verdwenen en de VS spreken hun zoveelste veto ten gunste van het Heilige Land uit.

Er is ooit een stel schoften in Neurenberg opgehangen vanwege misdaden tegen de menselijkheid of het goedpraten daarvan. Meneer Peres mag er wat mij betreft, na zijn uitspraken van gisteren, zo naast.


heel even dacht ik dat , deze nobelprijs winnaar, iets menselijks zou zeggen, maar toen hij beweerde dat israel haar kinderen beter bescherme moest ik bijna kotsen van deze misselijkmakende opmerking. Heel even hoopte dat ik dat een hamas strijder een israelische kleuterschool zou binnenlopen en de boel opblazen. zien hoe die peres dan zou reageren met israel beschermt haar kinderen beter.

wat mij het meeste stoort is dat het verdacht stil is bij de arabieren, op protestacties van het volk na. zelfs Hezobollah laat bar weinig van zich horen.Hartsikke gevaarlijk!! Israel heeft nu het idee dat ze alles kan maken zonder dat het bestraft wordt.
Waarom gaat de oliekraan niet voor een tijdje dicht? het enige wapen dat deze arabieren hebben. In deze huidige economische crisis moet zo een actie toch zoden aan de dijk zetten dacht ik zo.

tanger'73
07-01-09, 10:41
Tot aan de president van het uitverkoren volk toe. Deze schurk toonde zijn ware karakter door in een persconferentie aan te halen dat de Palestijnen 'hun kinderen maar beter moeten beschermen' want dat doet Israel ook.

Onvoorstelbaar, dat dit soort regelrechte viespeukerij en misdadigheid door het staatshoofd van Israel worden goedgepraat. Dit zijn dezelfde jongens die iedere keer krokodillentranen zitten te huilen als iemand de Holocaust zit te ontkennen maar ze zijn zelf geen ene haar beter.

Zal maar ophouden om de Holocaust erbij te halen want er zijn mensen op dit forum die iets pas echt een misdaad tegen de menselijkheid vinden als het gemiddeld aantal doden per uur even hoog ligt als in die jaren 1939-1945.

Het is onvoorstelbaar, en, let op mijn woorden, net als alle voorgaande keren komt de schurkenstaat Israel er gewoon mee weg. De beschieting van de VN-scholen verdwijnt via een zogenaamd "onafhankelijk" onderzoek in dezelfde doofpot als waarin Beit Hanout is verdwenen en de VS spreken hun zoveelste veto ten gunste van het Heilige Land uit.

Er is ooit een stel schoften in Neurenberg opgehangen vanwege misdaden tegen de menselijkheid of het goedpraten daarvan. Meneer Peres mag er wat mij betreft, na zijn uitspraken van gisteren, zo naast.


Mijnheer jhvandenheuvel, ik deel uw constateringen op dit forum volledig. Ook met betrekking tot een bepaalde groep prikkers die hier immoreel tegen beter weten in blijven doen. Met een bord voor de kop buitensporig geweld blijven bagatelliseren. Haast onvoorstelbaar, dan druk ik mij nog mild uit. Een dergelijk grootschalig geweld staat in geen enkele verhouding met eventuele capaciteiten van de Hamas of welk andere verzetsbeweging dan ook. Er doet zich voor het oog van iedereen een ordinaire vorm van staatsterrorisme voor. Dat men daar vervolgens onverschillig over doet is beneden alle maat.

StevieK
07-01-09, 11:18
heel even dacht ik dat , deze nobelprijs winnaar, iets menselijks zou zeggen, maar toen hij beweerde dat israel haar kinderen beter bescherme moest ik bijna kotsen van deze misselijkmakende opmerking. Heel even hoopte dat ik dat een hamas strijder een israelische kleuterschool zou binnenlopen en de boel opblazen. zien hoe die peres dan zou reageren met israel beschermt haar kinderen beter.

wat mij het meeste stoort is dat het verdacht stil is bij de arabieren, op protestacties van het volk na. zelfs Hezobollah laat bar weinig van zich horen.Hartsikke gevaarlijk!! Israel heeft nu het idee dat ze alles kan maken zonder dat het bestraft wordt.
Waarom gaat de oliekraan niet voor een tijdje dicht? het enige wapen dat deze arabieren hebben. In deze huidige economische crisis moet zo een actie toch zoden aan de dijk zetten dacht ik zo.

Waarom de olie kraan niet dicht gaat:
ER IS MAAR 1 GOD VOOR DE WELGESTELDEN EN DAT IS DE GOD VAN HET GELD, MAAKT NIET UIT WELK GELOOF

Misschien zie ik het fout
Israel heeft normal van raketbasis zijn raketten als verdediging ingezet. Ver weg van de bewoners.

Terwijl
Vanuit de Gazastrook vaak vanuit de dichtbevolkte gebieden hun/zijn raketten lanceerde.

Hoewel ik geweld ten alle tijd afkeur omdat vaak altijd onschuldige burgers het slachtoffers zijn en de topfiguren er meestal goed vanaf komen



Jammer dat je altijd op je woorden moet passen als je iets over Israel of haar bewoners of de joden in het algemeen iets zegt want als ze het maar verkeerd opvatten dan wordt altijd de Holocaust erbij gehaald.

Vorige week werd een nog een jood aangeklaagd, hij had vergeten de .... rekening te betalen Oeps, foutje, sorry
Maar ja wat ze nu doen, ach misschien had ze een goede leermeester gehad.