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cloned
27-05-09, 11:20
bron (http://www.alternet.org/politics/140221/bush%27s_shocking_biblical_prophecy_emerges%3A_god _wants_to_%22erase%22_mid-east_enemies_%22before_a_new_age_begins%22/)


The revelation this month in GQ Magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?

The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush's Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.

In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.

In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

"This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins".

The story of the conversation emerged only because the Elyse Palace, baffled by Bush's words, sought advice from Thomas Romer, a professor of theology at the University of Lausanne. Four years later, Romer gave an account in the September 2007 issue of the university's review, Allez savoir. The article apparently went unnoticed, although it was referred to in a French newspaper.

The story has now been confirmed by Chirac himself in a new book, published in France in March, by journalist Jean Claude Maurice. Chirac is said to have been stupefied and disturbed by Bush's invocation of Biblical prophesy to justify the war in Iraq and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs".

In the same year he spoke to Chirac, Bush had reportedly said to the Palestinian foreign minister that he was on "a mission from God" in launching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and was receiving commands from the Lord.

There can be little doubt now that President Bush's reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam's Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.

Many thousands of Americans and Iraqis have died in the campaign to defeat Gog and Magog. That the US President saw himself as the vehicle of God whose duty was to prevent the Apocalypse can only inflame suspicions across the Middle East that the United States is on a crusade against Islam.

There is a curious coda to this story. While a senior at Yale University George W. Bush was a member of the exclusive and secretive Skull & Bones society. His father, George H.W. Bush had also been a "Bonesman", as indeed had his father. Skull & Bones' initiates are assigned or take on nicknames. And what was George Bush Senior's nickname? "Magog".



YouTube - BushCult's "Crusade" statement


Ons J.P. kon natuurlijk als goedgelovig christen zijn hulp niet weigeren aan deze profeet die een goddelijke missie had.

The_Grand_Wazoo
27-05-09, 11:37
Kern van de argumentatie ligt in een vermeende uitspraak van Bush gedurende een gesprek met Chirac.
Wie was hierbij? War waren de belangen ev. van Chirac (je weet wel, de president van het land dat niet mee wenste te doen aan de oorlog en daarvoor met een spontane boycot van Franse producten te maken kreeg). om deze uitspraak wereldkundig te maken.

Les: niet alles geloven wat je leest.

Aït Ayt
27-05-09, 12:08
Les: niet alles geloven wat je leest.

en ook niet alles niet geloven wat je leest.. al jarenlang wordt er gesproken over de christelijke motivatie van bush om oorlog te voeren in irak..

cloned
27-05-09, 12:25
Kern van de argumentatie ligt in een vermeende uitspraak van Bush gedurende een gesprek met Chirac.
Wie was hierbij? War waren de belangen ev. van Chirac (je weet wel, de president van het land dat niet mee wenste te doen aan de oorlog en daarvoor met een spontane boycot van Franse producten te maken kreeg). om deze uitspraak wereldkundig te maken.

Les: niet alles geloven wat je leest.


Dit wil ik best geloven. Dit gezien een aantal weken geleden in de grote media(waaronder ook Amerikaanse) soortgelijke berichten werden geplaats. Rumsfeld zou post-it'jes plakken met bijbelse teksten op memo's om het Christelijke aspect van deze oorlog nog eens te benadrukken.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8056207.stm

Witte78
27-05-09, 12:43
Religie wordt puur misbruikt om het volk achter zich te krijgen.

Spoetnik
27-05-09, 13:57
Religie wordt puur misbruikt om het volk achter zich te krijgen.

En Bush blijkbaar :)