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Sallahddin
06-05-10, 12:15
"Interest , usury & Islam: lessons from Islamic & ethical finance " by Ann Pettifor

source : ToddsMurray.com

http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=TM1004-4156

Islam & Islamic economics will save the day once again ....

The materialistic west should learn from that ...

as Islam had helped Europe out of dark age ,

Islam will help this lost bankrupt materialistic west without a soul ...again ....

economically, morally, ethically, ideologically, psychologically, mentally, intellectually, spiritually ,socially, individually ,....

scientifically by providing some feed backs between science & Islam , & vice versa ,at the level of epistemology, paradigms ... as does the philosophy of science in relation to science & vice versa ......as do buddhism, taoism, hinduism ...in relation to science & vice versa ...

Pizzaman
06-05-10, 12:31
Islam will help this lost bankrupt materialistic west without a soul ...again

Wat bedoel je nou, gaan de Turken soms geld lenen aan de Grieken? :lol:

Sallahddin
06-05-10, 12:35
Wat bedoel je nou, gaan de Turken soms geld lenen aan de Grieken? :lol:

:lol:

read that article, silly boy ...

ELdorado
06-05-10, 19:34
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pizzaman
06-05-10, 21:37
:lol:

read that article, silly boy ...

Beste kerel, dat heb ik gedaan. Hetgeen ik er uit heb begrepen:

In Islam money can only be used for facilitating trade and commerce - a crucial difference with the world's major Christian religions. This was because Islamic scholars were fully aware that debt-creating money can stratify wealth, and exacerbate exploitation, oppression and the enslavement of those who do not own assets.

Da's 100% de waarheid. Wat dat betreft heeft de Islam het beter bekeken. Maar ja...
Echter, het geeft alleen aan hoe de huidige ellende VOORKOMEN had kunnen worden.
Niet hoe het gaat worden opgelost.

H.P.Pas
06-05-10, 21:55
This was because Islamic scholars were fully aware that debt-creating money can stratify wealth, and exacerbate exploitation, oppression and the enslavement of those who do not own assets.

:vreemd:


ʿAbbāsid wealth under Hārūn
The fabulous descriptions of Hārūn and his court in The Thousand and One Nights are idealized and romanticized, yet they had a considerable basis in fact. Untold wealth had flowed into the new capital of Baghdad since its foundation in 762. The leading men, and still more their wives, vied in conspicuous consumption, and in Hārūn’s reign this reached levels unknown before. His wife Zubaydah, herself a member of the ʿAbbāsid family, would have at her table only vessels of gold and silver studded with gems. Hārūn’s palace was an enormous institution, with numerous eunuchs, ..

Abu_Hurayrah
06-05-10, 22:10
His wife Zubaydah, herself a member of the ʿAbbāsid family, would have at her table only vessels of gold and silver studded with gems.

Volume 7, Book 72, Number 728:

Narrated Hudhaifa:

The Prophet forbade us to drink out of gold and silver vessels, or eat in it, And also forbade the wearing of silk and Dibaj or sitting on it.

Book 024, Number 5128:

Abd al-Rahman reported on the authority of his mother's sister Umm Salama who said that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who drank in vessels of gold or silver he in fact drank down in his belly the fire of Hell.

Pizzaman
06-05-10, 23:14
with numerous eunuchs, ..

OK nou weten we ook hoe het komt dat ze meer vrouwen mochten hebben... :hihi:

Overigens staat nergens dat er geen weelde mocht zijn of dat je het niet mocht verwerven.
Mits je het maar door handel of werken deed, en niet door het vergaren van rente.

ELdorado
07-05-10, 18:51
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PaRiSCaSa
09-05-10, 12:55
Undoubtedly, Islamic Finance has a bright future in Europe.

Even more since the global financial crisis, Islamic Finance is seen by many as an alternative the Western conventional speculative way of doing business. We have seen where it has led to.

The UK is today Europe’s major Islamic financial centre…it is already possible in the UK to be offered a mortgage compliant with the Shari’a…and I think it is the only country (Im not sure)…Islamically speaking, the UK has always had a step forward, compared to its European neighbours…

As the proportion of Muslims in France (or Germany) is higher and the demand for Islamic financial products larger, Islamic Finance is likely to be a success. It could target a large public of both Muslims and non Muslims who perceive the ethical and moral dimensions of Islamic financial products.

And (of course!) the government is aware that promoting Islamic Finance will attract Gulf-based investments,which are currently being placed in London only.

To be continued...

DNA
09-05-10, 13:21
:vreemd:

Those were western lies 'bout that good harun Arrashid ; come on :

the imperialistic west had falsified our history :

we must re_writte it again with all its disasters crimes ...badness & goodness ....

western materialistic imperialistic paternalistic ideological history writing : liberal; Marxist ..should be no serious history sources for us ...

DNA
09-05-10, 13:26
Undoubtedly, Islamic Finance has a bright future in Europe.

Even more since the global financial crisis, Islamic Finance is seen by many as an alternative the Western conventional speculative way of doing business. We have seen where it has led to.

The UK is today Europe’s major Islamic financial centre…it is already possible in the UK to be offered a mortgage compliant with the Shari’a…and I think it is the only country (Im not sure)…Islamically speaking, the UK has always had a step forward, compared to its European neighbours…

As the proportion of Muslims in France (or Germany) is higher and the demand for Islamic financial products larger, Islamic Finance is likely to be a success. It could target a large public of both Muslims and non Muslims who perceive the ethical and moral dimensions of Islamic financial products.

And (of course!) the government is aware that promoting Islamic Finance will attract Gulf-based investments,which are currently being placed in London only.

To be continued...

Those silly arrogant pretentious westerners have already been learning from islamic economics that w'd help them out of current crisis :

see Ibn Taimia's economics that are still unsurpassed today :

I hap opened a topic 'bout it previously :

that makes those lunatics such as Adam Simth look as foolish ingorants of the human nature ....as childish debutants ...

well; materialism is dead :

western "modernism = enlightenment " is dead :

neo_liberalism is dead :

that materialistic mechanical "Newtonian_cartesian" paradigm in science is dead ...

Marxism & communism are dead ...

.....capitalism almost ...so ...

To be continued ... too ...