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mark61
26-07-10, 06:56
More than 90,000 leaked US military records have been published on the website Wikileaks, reportedly revealing hidden details of the Afghanistan war.

Three major news publications which have been shown the documents say they include unreported killings of Afghan civilians.

The huge cache of classified papers is described as one of the biggest leaks in US military history.

The White House has condemned the leaks as "irresponsible".

Reports by the UK daily The Guardian, the New York Times and the German weekly Der Spiegel say the leaked papers reveal Nato concerns that neighbouring Pakistan and Iran are helping Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan.

The Pakistani ambassador in Washington said the "unprocessed" reports did "not reflect the current onground realities".

"The United States, Afghanistan and Pakistan are strategic partners and are jointly endeavouring to defeat al-Qaeda and its Taliban allies militarily and politically," said Husain Haqqani.

The reports also suggest:

* The Taliban has had access to portable heat-seeking missiles to shoot at aircraft.
* A secret US unit of army and navy special forces has been engaged on missions to "capture or kill" top insurgents.
* Many civilian casualties have gone unreported, both as a result of Taliban roadside bombs and Nato missions that went wrong.

The BBC's diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says that although the documents reveal no dramatic new insights, they show the difficulties of the war and the civilan death toll.

The reports offer an unvarnished and grim picture of the Afghan war, she adds.

In a statement, US National Security Adviser Gen James Jones said such classified information "could put the lives of Americans and our partners at risk, and threaten our national security".

He said the documents covered the period from 2004 to 2009, before President Obama "announced a new strategy with a substantial increase in resources for Afghanistan".

'Civilian deaths'

Another US official said that Wikileaks - which specialises in making public untraceable material from "whistleblowers" - was not an objective news outlet and described it as an organisation that opposes US policy in Afghanistan.

But the head of the Foreign Relations Committee in the US Senate said that "however illegally these documents came to light, they raise serious questions about the reality of America's policy toward Pakistan and Afghanistan".

"Those policies are at a critical stage and these documents may very well underscore the stakes and make the calibrations needed to get the policy right more urgent," said Democrat Senator John Kerry.

Wikileaks is releasing the set of documents under the title Afghan War Diary. It says is has delayed the release of about 15,000 reports from the archive as part of a "harm minimisation process demanded by our source".

The Guardian and the New York Times say they had no contact with the original source of the leak, but spent weeks crosschecking the information.

The reports come as Nato says it is investigating reports that as many as 45 civilians died in an air strike in Helmand province on Friday.

Although an initial Nato investigation found no evidence, a BBC journalist visiting Regey village spoke to several people who said they had witnessed the incident.

They said the attack had come in daylight as dozens sheltered from fighting in nearby Joshani.

A Nato spokesman said international forces went to great measures to avoid civilian casualties.

"The safety of the Afghan people is very important to the International Security Assistance Forces," Lt Col Chris Hughes added.

Op de radio zeiden ze er nog even bij dat het voorkwam dat ze één persoon in een huis / dorp zochten en dus maar de hele tent bombardeerden; dat ze in paniek mensen in auto's en bussen doodschoten die stoptekens of road blocks nooit hadden kunnen zien, 's nachts bijvoorbeeld. Hoe ze een doofstomme doodschoten, want ja, die kon niet horen dat ze 'stop' riepen.

Soldim
26-07-10, 11:59
More than 90,000 leaked US military records have been published on the website Wikileaks, reportedly revealing hidden details of the Afghanistan war.


Heb ik eindelijk vijf minuten om op wikileaks.org rond te kijken, zijn ze down :aanwal:

Ik zou overigens niet graag in Assange's schoenen staan...

mark61
26-07-10, 12:22
Heb ik eindelijk vijf minuten om op wikileaks.org rond te kijken, zijn ze down :aanwal:

Ik zou overigens niet graag in Assange's schoenen staan...

Ach, tis niet of er staatsgeheimen bij zitten. Het is alleen dat ze niet willen dat iedereen alles tegelijk overziet nu.

Dat leugenachtige gelul over 'onze troepen in gevaar brengen' dat je dan altijd krijgt :hihi:

Soldim
26-07-10, 12:43
Ach, tis niet of er staatsgeheimen bij zitten. Het is alleen dat ze niet willen dat iedereen alles tegelijk overziet nu.

Dat leugenachtige gelul over 'onze troepen in gevaar brengen' dat je dan altijd krijgt :hihi:

'k Heb, bij gebrek aan toegang tot wikileaks (dat noemen ze nou openbaar maken?? :hihi: ) -- maar eens bij de NYTimes en Guardian gekeken. Het zijn inderdaad een hoop puzzelstukjes, waarmee je een beeld krijgt van de houding en handelingen door de NATO militairen.

Het enige wat ik eruit kan concluderen is dat de gemiddelde 'Jan Kannonenvoer' vooral uit eigen belang denkt en handelt. Onafhankelijk of hij nu een Nederlands, Amerikaans, Pakistaans of Afghaans kogelvrij-vestje draag.

Ali_Zaoua
26-07-10, 13:33
Op een bom staat een t.h.t. datum, hoe kunnen mensen nou denken dat miljoenen bommen die afgevuurd worden alleen militaire doelen treffen