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HUISBAAS
25-09-10, 13:59
ISTANBUL - Bij twee galerieën in Istanbul zijn vijf gewonden gevallen toen een groep onbekenden met stenen en stokken bezwaar maakte tegen het feit dat er op straat alcohol werd geschonken. Bij de twee galerieën werden exposities geopend met honderden gasten uit binnen- en buitenland. Dat melden verscheidene Turkse media woensdag.


Zo'n dertig mensen gooiden stenen en sloegen met stokken op de gasten in, er sneuvelden ruiten en er werd met pepperspray gespoten. Buurtbewoners hadden de galerieën naar verluidt gewaarschuwd voor de aanval. De aanvallers maakten zich uit de voeten voor de politie arriveerde. Er zijn geen arrestaties verricht, maar het onderzoek naar de gebeurtenissen is inmiddels op gang gekomen.

De aanval wakkert bij veel Turken de angst aan dat vrijheden die volgens hen verbonden zijn met de seculiere republiek, zoals het vrij gebruik van alcohol, in het gedrang komen.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/...ende_galerieen (http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/article1421979.ece/Aanval_in_Istanbul_op_alcohol_schenkende_galerieen )
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Ahlam851
25-09-10, 14:33
Ik vind het al belachelijk dat in alle grote supermarkten in Marokko Alcohol wordt verkocht. Zou verboden moeten worden. Willen toeristen wat drinken dan nemen ze het lekker mee, genoeg winkels bij de luchthavens waar je het kunt kopen :ego:
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Joesoef
25-09-10, 15:21
Istanbul is dit jaar culturele hoofdstad van Europa.

Slinger
25-09-10, 15:26
Istanbul is dit jaar culturele hoofdstad van Europa.

Dat kan wel zijn, maar 1453 zijn we niet vergeten, hoor.

mark61
25-09-10, 16:48
The attack on the art galleries

Friday, September 24, 2010
MUSTAFA AKYOL

So, are Turkey’s wild-eyed Islamists attacking modern art galleries and lynching wine drinkers now? Are we really a bit closer to becoming another Iran?

Tuesday night, something terrible happened in Istanbul: Two modern art galleries, which were hosting cocktail parties, were stormed by more than two dozen men who had batons, knives and bottles in their hands. They harassed the people inside, beat some of them, and used pepper sprays on others. Luckily, no serious injury took place, but many were hurt, and all art fans that happened to be there that night were terrorized.

This is certainly a criminal and barbaric attack. I condemn it wholeheartedly. I also want to extend my “geçmiş olsun” (in Turkish, literally, “let it be passed”) wishes to the galleries in question and their guests.

Class struggle?

There is no confusion about that part. But there is controversy in the Turkish media now about what this attack was really about and what it tells us about our society.

Newspapers, including the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review, reported the view that “the scuffle broke out due to alcohol consumption in the streets.” Accordingly, many people instinctively saw a parallelism between this incident and Turkey’s alleged course toward becoming a “shariah state.”

Well, let’s see if that is really the case. One interesting note was in a column by Yalçın Doğan, whose secular credentials are impeccable, in daily Hürriyet. “A friend of mine has been living in that neighborhood for 20 years,” wrote Doğan the other day. “For 20 years, people there have been drinking alcohol, listening to music, and chatting on the street. Everybody has been living as they wished.”

Who were the attackers, then? Doğan has no clear idea, but suspects that they are “a group of hooligans… who probably drink alcohol themselves.” (A self-declared culprit, who spoke to daily Radikal anonymously, also said, “Some of us were also people who drink.”)

Besides, there is the interesting fact that one of the galleries, Galeri Non, was hosting an exhibit which made fun of – guess what – Atatürk and Kemalism: hardly the target for a cadre of ideological Islamists.

To get a better picture, perhaps we should take a look at the Tophane neighborhood, where these attacks took place. Traditionally, this has been a poor and parochial area, but since its rusty streets have a “cool” historic feeling, it has become trendy in the past decade. So, places like art galleries, bars and hostels were opened here and there, bringing a whole new crowd of people. The traditional Tophane resident is the typical Anatolian man. But the new crowd includes people with unusual hairstyles, tattoos, piercings, and all sorts of things that probably look too alien to the old residents.

The tension can be seen in some of the postings on the Tophane News website (tophanehaber.com), which became the focus of media attention after the incident. The chat board includes some of the resident’s complaints about the newcomers, who “show up in their hostel balconies half naked,” who “walk around drunken,” or who play loud music all night long. In return, they speak of the need to “reclaim our neighborhood.”

The tension, it seems, is one that of class, rather than a strict religious-secular divide. Atılgan Bayar, a columnist for daily Akşam, agrees, and argues that the tension in Tophane is caused by “gentrification,” and takes place between “the poor” who are disturbed by, among other things, the astronomic increase in rents and other prices, and the newly arrived “bohemian rich.”

I am not denying that religion must have a share in the cultural makeup of Tophane’s tough guys. (There is also no doubt that we have fanatic Islamists in Turkey who are responsible for some horrific incidents, such as the killing of 33 people in Sivas in 1993, for “insulting the prophet.”)

But rather than ideological Islamists, the Tophane thugs seem to fit into the usual crude and uneducated conservative/nationalist type: the guy who would beat someone for eating during Ramadan and then cheer for this in the beer hall. Or beats someone who looks suggestively at his sister, but then would go and hit rudely on any good-looking lady he sees.

AKP to blame?

Finally, I should say that the incident did not happen because “the Islamist AKP is in power.” First of all, the municipality there is run by an AKP mayor, Ahmet Misbah Demircan, who spearheaded the gentrification project. He and his people clearly have no problem with the boom of art galleries or bars.

Secondly, there is no need for “fundamentalists” to be “emboldened” by the government for such things, as Semiz İdiz unconvincingly suggested in these pages yesterday. (Sivas killings had taken place when a very secular-minded government was in power.)

Third, I am sure AKP folks wish no such things ever happen, because they only bring on them more of this bilge about “creeping Islamism.”

But it is certainly the job of the government to make sure that Tophane becomes safe for all. It was good that Culture Minister Ertuğrul Günay visited the attacked galleries and condemned the violence. But what is crucial is to find the culprits and bring them to justice – something the Istanbul police should do seriously and quickly.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=the-attack-on-the-art-galleries-2010-09-24

John61
25-09-10, 20:02
Ik vind het al belachelijk dat in alle grote supermarkten in Marokko Alcohol wordt verkocht. Zou verboden moeten worden. Willen toeristen wat drinken dan nemen ze het lekker mee, genoeg winkels bij de luchthavens waar je het kunt kopen :ego:
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En voor de Europeanen die wonen/werken in Marokko, die moeten maar naar de luchthaven als ze alcohol willen kopen? En hoe zit het met de marokanen zelf? Er zijn dr best wel die alcohol drinken.

Magoed, kennelijk ben je errug extreem. Dan vind je kennelijk ook dat halalvlees uitsluitend bij Schiphol en andere luchthavens te koop mag zijn. En dat hoofddoeken alleen in de luchthavens gedragen kan worden :maf2:

Jolan
25-09-10, 21:53
En voor de Europeanen die wonen/werken in Marokko, die moeten maar naar de luchthaven als ze alcohol willen kopen? En hoe zit het met de marokanen zelf? Er zijn dr best wel die alcohol drinken.



Magoed, kennelijk ben je errug extreem. Dan vind je kennelijk ook dat halalvlees uitsluitend bij Schiphol en andere luchthavens te koop mag zijn. En dat hoofddoeken alleen in de luchthavens gedragen kan worden :maf2:

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Moslims zijn de besten, niet moslims passen zich maar aan!
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Abu Bakr
25-09-10, 22:26
Moslims zijn de besten, niet moslims passen zich maar aan!

Helemaal mee eens :hihi:
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jang0201
26-09-10, 08:03
Moslims zijn de besten, niet moslims passen zich maar aan!
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Waarin ben je de beste dan?

Joesoef
26-09-10, 08:11
Waarin ben je de beste dan?


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