"israel on the wrong side of history" by israeli Uri Avnery :

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"israel on the wrong side of history" by israeli uri Avnery !

Source : revolt of the plebs on line, March 06, 2011 :

http://www.revoltoftheplebs.com/categories/news-analysis/israel-on-the-wrong-side-of-history/


http://midtostenpolitikken.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/634659_avnery-israel-is-on-the-wrong-side-of-history




http://midtostenpolitikken.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/634659_avnery-israel-is-on-the-wrong-side-of-history



http://midtostenpolitikken.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/634659_avnery-israel-is-on-the-wrong-side-of-history

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/03/06/avnery-israel-is-on-wrong-side-of-history/

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march062011/arab-uprisings-jw.php


http://wallwritings.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/bibi-is-on-the-wrong-side-of-history-when-he-opposes-arab-uprisings/

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Israel on the wrong side of history
Posted by keith on Mar 06, 2011 | 1 Comment

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s policy of maintaining Israel as a garrison state and enlarging settlements is leading to a cul-de-sac and international isolation from which it will be hard to exit.

Uri Avnery

”…the Arab awakening will, in the medium and long term, change the Israeli-Arab balance of power – psychologically, politically, economically, and in the end also militarily. At the same time, the world balance of power is also changing. New powers are rising, old powers are gradually losing their clout. This will not be a one-time, dramatic occurrence, but a slow and steady process.

“That is how history is moving. Anyone who places himself on the wrong side of it will pay the price.” (Uri Avnery)

Of all the memorable phrases uttered by Barack Obama in the last two years, the one that stuck in my mind more than any other appeared in his historic speech in Cairo in the early days of his term. He warned the nations not to place themselves “on the wrong side of history”.

It seems that the Arab nations took heed of this advice more than he might have anticipated. In the last few weeks they jumped from the wrong to the right side of history. And what a jump it was!

Our government, however, is moving in the opposite direction. It is determined, so it seems, to get as far away from the right side as possible.

Cul-de-sac
We are in a cul-de-sac. And it lies in the nature of culs-de-sac that the deeper in you get, the further you have to go back when the time comes.

This week, a fascinating telephone conversation took place. On the one end was Binyamin Netanyahu, on the other the German chancellor, Angela Merkel.

In time gone by, the world’s leaders did not generally talk to each other directly. Bismarck did not pick up the phone to talk with Napoleon III. He sent seasoned diplomats, who knew how to smooth the edges and deliver an ultimatum in a soft voice.

Netanyahu called to rebuke Angela Merkel for Germany’s vote in favour of the Security Council resolution condemning the settlements – the resolution blocked by the scandalous US veto. I don’t know if our prime minister mentioned the Holocaust, but he certainly expressed his annoyance about Germany daring to vote against the “Jewish state”.

He was shocked by the answer. Instead of a contrite Frau Merkel apologizing abjectly, his ear was filled by a schoolmistress scolding him in no uncertain terms. She told him that he had broken all his promises, that no one of the world’s leaders believes a single word of his any more. She demanded that he make peace with the Palestinians.

If a person like Netanyahu could be rendered “speechless”, it would have happened at that moment. Fortunately for Netanyahu, it just cannot happen to him.

Growing international isolation
This conversation is a symptom of an ongoing process – the slow but steady deterioration in Israel’s international standing.

In Israel, this is called “delegitimatsia”. It is conceived as a sinister world-wide conspiracy, rather on the lines of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Clearly, it has no connection with anything we do – since all our deeds are pure as gold. The obvious conclusion: the enemies of Israel all over the world – including their fifth column in Israel itself – are plotting the destruction of Israel by all kinds of boycotts.

Our leaders know how to obstruct this plot – by enacting laws. Anyone who supplies the enemies of Israel with lists of enterprises located in the settlements will be punished. Anyone who calls for a boycott of Israel or of the settlements – in the eyes of the lawmakers, they are one and the same – will have to pay astronomical fines and indemnities, millions of dollars. And if all this doesn’t help, the enemies of the regime will be sent to prison, as has happened already to the serial peace demonstrator Jonathan Pollak.

But it appears that our leaders do not rely on these measures alone. Therefore, our deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon (remember? The genius who sought to humiliate the Turkish ambassador by sitting him on a low stool?) decided to reach for even more radical remedies: all Israeli ambassadors will now be sent to the Machpela Cave in Hebron for a historic meeting with our forefather Abraham, who, according to Jewish belief, is buried there (archeologists think that it is a Muslim sheikh who lies there in troubled rest).

Seriously, our leaders now look like the boy in the legend who thrust his finger in the dyke to stop the water, though in our case the whole of the dyke is crumbling.

Yes, Israel’s standing in the world is indeed sinking continuously, but not because of a world-wide plot uniting “anti-Semites” and “self-hating Jews”.

We are sinking, because we are on the wrong side of history.

Stuck in the past
Israel has maintained for decades a regime of occupation. It continues to control and humiliate another people. Ideologically and practically, it lives in the mental world of the 19th century, while the rest of the world is starting to live in the 21st. Israeli policy is simply anachronistic.

The 21st century will see the sight of nations coming together. It will see the beginning of a world order, and I have no doubt that this idea will be realized.

This is not a vision of starry-eyed idealists. It is an essential necessity for the human race and all its peoples and nations. The world is faced with problems that no single state or group of states can solve by itself. Global warming, which is threatening the very existence of the human species, is by its very nature a world problem. The recent economic crisis has shown that the collapse of one country’s economy can spread like wildfire to the entire world. The internet has established a world-wide community, in which ideas spread easily from country to country, as we can see now in the Arab world.

International institutions, which once aroused only derision, are slowly acquiring real jurisdiction. The International Court has grown teeth. International law, which in the past was mainly an abstract idea, is slowly evolving into a real world law. Important and strong countries like Germany and France are voluntarily giving up large chunks of their sovereignty in favour of the European Union. Regional and worldwide cooperation between nations is becoming a political necessity.

Concepts like democracy, liberty, justice and human rights are not only moral values – in today’s world they have become essential needs, a basis for a new world order.

All these processes are advancing at a maddeningly slow, almost geological pace. But the direction is unmistakable and cannot be reversed. Whatever Barack Obama’s deeds – or lack of them – his intuition about the direction can be trusted.

That is the “right side of history”. But our country is closing its eyes to this. True, it excels in the most international of industries, high tech, and is working successfully to extend its economic ties to the far corners of the world. But it scorns international public opinion, the United Nations and international law. It sticks to a form of nationalism that was “modern” at the time of the French revolution, when the “nation-state” was the highest ideal. Of course, nationalism has not died, and it occupies even now an important place in the consciousness of the peoples. But this is a completely new form of nationalism, the nationalism of the 21st century, which does not stand in contradiction to internationalism but, on the contrary, constitutes a brick in the edifice of the international structure.

The Arab nations have suddenly awoken from a centuries-long slumber, and are now fighting to catch up with the other nations. The anachronistic tyrannies that kept them down, wasted their capabilities and imposed on them patterns of bygone ages, are no more.

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It is difficult to know where these uprisings, which are engulfing the region from Morocco to Oman and from Syria to Yemen, will go. It is hard to prophesy, especially the future.

The year 2011 may be for the Arab world what 1848 was for Europe. Then, when the French people stood up, the waves of revolution spread over much of the face of the continent. It seems that I am not the only one who is now reminded of this example. Much can be learned from it, and not all of it positive. In France, the uprising swept away a corrupt regime, but paved the way for the rise of Napoleon III, the first of Europe’s modern dictators. In Germany, then fragmented into dozens of kingdoms and principalities, the rulers were frightened and so promised democratic reforms. But while the debates of the lawyers and politicians in Frankfurt about the future constitution went on and on, the kings gathered their armies, crushed the democrats and started another era of oppression. (The failure of the Frankfurt assembly found its expression in the immortal German verse: “Dreimal hundert Professoren / Vaterland, du bist verloren!” – Three times a hundred professors / Motherland you are lost.)

The revolutions of 1848 left behind a legacy of disappointment and despair. But they were not in vain. The noble ideas born in those heady months did not die, future generations strove to realize them in all the countries of the continent. The current flag of Germany was born in those days.

The Arab revolutions, too, may end in failure and disappointment. They may give birth to new dictatorships. Here and there anachronistic religious regimes may spring up. Each Arab country is different from the others, and in each the developments will be subject to local conditions. But what happened yesterday in Tunisia and Egypt, what is happening today in Libya and Yemen, what happens tomorrow in Saudi Arabia and Syria will shape the face of the Arab nations for a long time to come. They will play an entirely new role on the world stage.

Garrison state in eternal conflict
Israel is dominated by the settlers, who resemble in spirit the Crusaders of the 12th century. Fundamentalist religious parties, not much different from their Iranian counterparts, play a major role in our state. The political and economic elite is steeped in corruption. Our democracy, in which we took so much pride, is in mortal danger.

Some people argue that all this is happening because “Netanyahu has no policy”. Nonsense. He has a clear policy: to maintain Israel as a garrison state, to enlarge the settlements, to prevent the foundation of a real Palestinian state, and to go on without peace, in a state of eternal conflict.

Just now it has been leaked that Netanyahu is going to give a historic speech – another one – very soon. Not in the Knesset, whose importance is approaching nil, but in the really important forum: the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Jewish lobby in Washington.

Netanyahu’s bogus “peace plan”
There he will unfold his “peace plan”, whose details have also been leaked. A wonderful plan, with only one minor defect: it has nothing to do with peace.

It proposes setting up a Palestinian state with “provisional borders”. (With us, nothing is more permanent than the “provisional”). It will consist of about half the West Bank. (The other half, including East Jerusalem, will presumably be covered with settlements.) There will be a timetable for the discussion of the core issues – borders, Jerusalem, refugees, etc. (In Oslo, a timetable of five years was fixed. It expired in 1999, by which time negotiation had not even started.) Negotiations will not start at all until the Palestinians recognize Israel as the “state of the Jewish people” and accept its “security requirements”. (Meaning: never.)

If the Palestinians accept such a plan, they need (in the words of the US secretary of defense in another context) “to have their heads examined”. But of course Netanyahu is not addressing the Palestinians at all. His plan is a primitive attempt at marketing. (After all, in the past he was a marketing agent for furniture). The aim is to stop the international campaign of “delegitimatsia”.

Ehud Barak, too, had something to say this week. In a long TV interview, almost entirely consisting of political gibberish, he made one important remark: the Arab uprisings provide Israel with new opportunities. What opportunities? You guessed it: to get increased quantities of American arms. Arms and America über alles.

And indeed, the one factor that makes this policy still possible is the unequalled relationship between Israel and the US. But the Arab awakening will, in the medium and long term, change the Israeli-Arab balance of power – psychologically, politically, economically, and in the end also militarily. At the same time, the world balance of power is also changing. New powers are rising, old powers are gradually losing their clout. This will not be a one-time, dramatic occurrence, but a slow and steady process.

That is how history is moving. Anyone who places himself on the wrong side of it will pay the price.

[Sallahddin]

Illegal racist state's terrorist apartheid usurpator ...war criminal israel is not only on the wrong side of history , but it'is also THE enemy of humanity, peace , ....

see my signature below ...

[Bofko]

see my signature below ...

Je kunt geen autoriteit ontlenen aan een signature dan wel je signature als argument gebruiken.
see my avatar left.....

[Sallahddin]

Je kunt geen autoriteit ontlenen aan een signature dan wel je signature als argument gebruiken.
see my avatar left.....


my signature = words of an israeli historian ....

history , logics , the zionazis' behaviour ...the future ...an islamic prophecy ....prove that quote below right ...

[Bofko]

my signature = words of an israeli historian ....

history , logics , the zionazis' behaviour ...the future ...an islamic prophecy ....prove that quote below right ...

Het is een standpunt. Een standpunt is nooit waar (of onwaar) . Net als smaak.
Je moet toch eens wat preciezer gaan formuleren.

[Sallahddin]

Het is een standpunt. Een standpunt is nooit waar (of onwaar) . Net als smaak.
Je moet toch eens wat preciezer gaan formuleren.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did u read that article about that israeli historian at least ??? don't think so !

Shlomo Sand uttered some ideas, facts & theories on the matter : so, u don't know what u're talmking about :

een rationeel , logisch of empirisch standpunt kan wel waar of onwaar zijn : smaak is iets anders ....

smaak is subjectief net als sommige subjectieve standpunten & standpunten zijn niet altijd subjectief ........

ratio is een vorm van subjectivisme = subjectivisme gerationaliseerd , zou je kunnen zeggen : maar die israeli historian heeft het niet alleen over ratio , maar ook over empirisch archeologisch vondsten, feiten ...over sommige wetenschappelijke kanten; methoden & benaderingnen van geschiedschrijving israeli geschiedschrijvers negeren & niet hanteren met betrekking tot hun eigen joodse historie althans ....

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[Sallahddin]

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israel is not smart enough to deal with those Arab uprises ...

[Slinger]

israel is not smart enough to deal with those Arab uprises ...

Van het ontstaan van werkelijk democratische verhoudingen in de Arabische wereld zal Israël geen last hebben. Tevreden, goed geregeerde volkeren hebben namelijk geen reden om ten strijde te trekken tegen een aangeprate vijand.

[Sallahddin]

Van het ontstaan van werkelijk democratische verhoudingen in de Arabische wereld zal Israël geen last hebben. Tevreden, goed geregeerde volkeren hebben namelijk geen reden om ten strijde te trekken tegen een aangeprate vijand.

u just let ur psychology & hatred do the talk for u : full of hatred irrational guy :

the geo_political balance of power will be shifting : the Arab peoples will do that : no power on earth can stop those peoples anymore from protecting their own interests & those of the weaker , poor nations : even at the cost of those western & israeli humiliating impeeralistic interests that enslave the Arab peoples by preventing their freedom , sovereingty & independence from the west & israel from taking place :

fact is : Arab peoples will have a say on their own countries 'decision making in relation to both domestic & foreign policies , including in relation to the west & israel : will struggle against western & israeli imperialistic interests :

The Egyptian people for example will be against the criminal israeli Gaza siege , against that humiliating "peace treaty" with israel the Egyptian people had no say on : will change its humiliating terms at least ....

no time for more , later ...

[Slinger]

u just let ur psychology & hatred do the talk for u : full of hatred irrational guy :

the geo_political balance of power will be shifting : the Arab peoples will do that : no power on earth can stop those peoples anymore from protecting their own interests & those of the weaker , poor nations : even at the cost of those western & israeli humiliating impeeralistic interests that enslave the Arab peoples by preventing their freedom , sovereingty & independence from the west & israel from taking place :

fact is : Arab peoples will have a say on their own countries 'decision making in relation to both domestic & foreign policies , including in relation to the west & israel : will struggle against western & israeli imperialistic interests :

The Egyptian people for example will be against the criminal israeli Gaza siege , against that humiliating "peace treaty" with israel the Egyptian people had no say on : will change its humiliating terms at least ....

no time for more , later ...

Je zult nog verbaasd staan over de rust en vrede die er over een paar jaar zal heersen.

Democratisch geregeerde land hebben namelijk geen belang bij ruzie met hun buren. Dat leert de geschiedenis.

Just wait and see...

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Je zult nog verbaasd staan over de rust en vrede die er over een paar jaar zal heersen.

Democratisch geregeerde land hebben namelijk geen belang bij ruzie met hun buren. Dat leert de geschiedenis.

Just wait and see...


of ja ??? : ik kan je naief optimisme niet delen helaas , al zou ik dat willen ;

wat betreft jou bovenstaande woorden, het volgende ;

vandaar dat westerse "democratieen" zoveel oorlogen hadden gevoerd ... & nog steeds :lol:

vandaar dat het westen zijn dominatie verder wil voortzetten terwijl westerse dominatie aan het afnemen is in de wereld : niet voor niets werden al die Arabisch dictaturen afgezet door de Arabisch volkeren : dictateuren die werden actief gesteund door het "democratisch " westen tegen de wil & belangen van de Arabisch volkeren : denk je dat de laatsten het westen ervoor zullen belonen ??? :lol:

het feit al dat het allemaal gaat om belangen & machstverhoudingnen is al DE bron van alle ellende : het westen is een seriieus belemmering voor echt vrede daaroom al :

& there can be no peace without justice : the west does not care about justice , just about its interests & balance of power : = more reasons for wars,, instability ....

[Slinger]

of ja ??? : ik kan je naief optimisme niet delen helaas , al zou ik dat willen ;

wat betreft jou bovenstaande woorden, het volgende ;

vandaar dat westerse "democratieen" zoveel oorlogen hadden gevoerd ... & nog steeds :lol:

vandaar dat het westen zijn dominatie verder wil voortzetten terwijl westerse dominatie aan het afnemen is in de wereld : niet voor niets werden al die Arabisch dictaturen afgezet door de Arabisch volkeren : dictateuren die werden actief gesteund door het "democratisch " westen tegen de wil & belangen van de Arabisch volkeren : denk je dat de laatsten het westen ervoor zullen belonen ??? :lol:

het feit al dat het allemaal gaat om belangen & machstverhoudingnen is al DE bron van alle ellende : het westen is een seriieus belemmering voor echt vrede daaroom al :

& there can be no peace without justice : the west does not care about justice , just about its interests & balance of power : = more reasons for wars,, instability ....

Ik begrijp dat jij als een echte islamofascist maar steeds op oorlog hoopt. Ik moet je echter teleurstellen. Democratieën voeren onderling nooit oorlog.

[knuppeltje]

Democratieën voeren onderling nooit oorlog.

Wat voor sommige zogenaamde democratieën totaal geen beletsel vormt om er ergens anders een te beginnen.

[knuppeltje]

Democratisch geregeerde land hebben namelijk geen belang bij ruzie met hun buren. Dat leert de geschiedenis.

Just wait and see...

Wat voor sommige zogenaamde democratieën weer geen enkel beletsel vormt om in de door hun bezette gebieden een gruwelijk koloniaal bewind te voeren. Sommige van die zogenaamde democratie, zoals Israël bijvoorbeeld, krijgen zelfs internationaal van andere zogenaamde democratieën miljarden steun.

We hoeven helemaal niet te wachten om dat te zien. Dat zien we dagelijks, al jaren.

[Sallahddin]

Ik begrijp dat jij als een echte islamofascist maar steeds op oorlog hoopt. Ik moet je echter teleurstellen. Democratieën voeren onderling nooit oorlog.


ja,ja : je denkvermogen is zo beperkt dat je die belachelijk contradictio in termo telkens & weer herhaalt ; zie ik : & niet's in staat bent om te kunnen tolereren dat men je eigen naief optimisme niet kan delen : & wie zegt dan dat ik houd van oorlog : kan je niet lezen , dummy ??? denk van niet !


"democratieen" voeren onderling nooit oorlog ??? nou, niet helemaal , nee , voortaan niet na de bloedig laatste 2 groot oorlogen & cold war , zo lijkt het wel althans : ze functioneren slechts als een maffia gang die de rest van de wereld als slaaf maken : da's alles ....ze kunnen niet functioneren of overleven , laat staan rijk worden zonder de rest van de wereld te misbruiken, onderdrukken, slaaf maken ...in totaal contrast met hun "democartisch" normen & waarden die slechts van materialistisch aard zijn = materialistisch westerse normen & waarden die hebben niets menselijks of onvoorwaardelijks ...

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Wat voor sommige zogenaamde democratieën totaal geen beletsel vormt om er ergens anders een te beginnen.

Precies :

zgn westerse "democratieen" zijn tegenwoordig DE bron nummer 1 van het starten van bijna alle oorlogen , zie ook "democratisch" racistisch illegaal israel ....

westerse "democratieen" als DE bron nummer 1 van bijna alle ellende in de wereld van : honger , onderdrukking, imperialisme, neo_imperialisme, ongelijkheden , onrecht , tot het vernietigen van de eco_systems, climate change , .....de lijst is long inderdaad ...

zie de voormalig westerse imperialisme & de neo_imperialisme , de voormalig slavernij .....de westerse "democratieen" niet hadden kunnen beletten ....al die ellende die allemaal te wijten is aan westerse" democratieen" wiens individualistisch egocentrisch egoeistisch a_moreel intrinsiek inherent fundamenteel karakter & materialistisch waarden dat allemaal hadden gerechtvaardigd & getriggerd ....

a_moreel intrinsiek karakter van democratie & diens materialistisch normen & waarden als DE oorzaak nummer 1 van bijna alle ellende op de wereld ...

see those so_called rational liberal ethics without a heart or soul dominating in the world today ; even globally between nations : kantian, contractarianist , utilitarianist & those ethics of the market : that had been invading even our own private personal familial ereas : disgusting :


well, i do prefer the islamic ethics : the best ever or those post_modernistic neo_feminism's ethics of care that try to improve those liberal ethics by introducing heart, feeling, love, empathy , care ; solidarity .....to ethics , not only at the personal, private & familial levels , but also at the economic, social & political national levels ,


& even at the global level between nations :


see this great book on the matter :

"Ethics of care : personal, political, global" by Virginia Held : awesome really : rational ethics of care with heart , feeling , empathy , care , love ....even at the global level : even at the local national economic social political levels , not only at the personal private faimilial levels ...

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:zwaai: Think, guys , do not let others do just that for u ...

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It's not in the interests of the west that the Arab world becomes "democratic" or that most of the rest of the world becomemes "democratic" because it's all about interests & balance of power : not about democracy, freedom, justice ....

western democracies cannot function or prosper , let alone survive , without enslaving, colonizing , exploiting ...other weaker & poor folks ...

so, the Arab world will get fake by_the_west_managed "democracies" in order to keep on serving the western & israeli interests ...

[Sallahddin]

what an a_moral materialistic darwinistic world really where "might is right" thanks to western materialism , darwinistic "might is right" sometimes softly & subtly & sometimes boldly brutally ....disgusting ...




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I prefer to listen to :


"killing me softly with ur words ...."" oh ho ho .......... :lol: