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Grietje
10-06-03, 11:29
Interview met een beul

Kingdom’s Leading Executioner Says: ‘I Lead a Normal Life’
Mahmoud Ahmad, Arab News Staff




JEDDAH, 5 June 2003 — Saudi Arabia’s leading executioner Muhammad Saad Al-Beshi will behead up to seven people in a day.

“It doesn’t matter to me: Two, four, 10 — As long as I’m doing God’s will, it doesn’t matter how many people I execute,” he told Okaz newspaper in an interview.

He started at a prison in Taif, where his job was to handcuff and blindfold the prisoners before their execution. “Because of this background, I developed a desire to be an executioner,” he says.

He applied for the job and was accepted.

His first job came in 1998 in Jeddah. “The criminal was tied and blindfolded. With one stroke of the sword I severed his head. It rolled meters away.” Of course he was nervous, then, he says, as many people were watching, but now stage fright is a thing of the past.

He says he is calm at work because he is doing God’s work. “But there are many people who faint when they witness an execution. I don’t know why they come and watch if they don’t have the stomach for it.

“Me? I sleep very well,” he adds.

Does he think people are afraid of him? “In this country we have a society that understands God’s law,” he says. “No one is afraid of me. I have a lot of relatives, and many friends at the mosque, and I live a normal life like everyone else. There are no drawbacks for my social life.”

Before an execution, nonetheless, he will go to the victim’s family to obtain forgiveness for the criminal. “I always have that hope, until the very last minute, and I pray to God to give the criminal a new lease of life. I always keep that hope alive.”

Al-Beshi will not reveal how much he gets paid per execution as this is a confidential agreement with the government. But he insists that the reward is not important. “I am very proud to do God’s work,” he reiterates.

However, he does reveal that a sword will cost something in the region of SR20,000. “It’s a gift from the government. I look after it and sharpen it once in a while, and I make sure to clean it of bloodstains.

“It’s very sharp. People are amazed how fast it can separate the head from the body.”

By the time the victims reach the execution square they have surrendered themselves to death, he says, though they may hope to be forgiven at the last minute. “Their hearts and minds are taken up with reciting the Shahada.” The only conversation with the prisoner is when he tells him to say the Shahada.

“When they get to the execution square, their strength drains away. Then I read the execution order, and at a signal I cut the prisoner’s head off.”

He has executed numerous women without hesitation, he explains. “Despite the fact that I hate violence against women, when it comes to God’s will, I have to carry it out.”

There is no great difference between executing men and women, except that the women wear hijab, and nobody is allowed near them except Al-Beshi himself when the time for execution comes.

When executing women he will use either gun or sword. “It depends what they ask me to use. Sometimes they ask me to use a sword and sometimes a gun. But most of the time I use the sword,” he adds.

As an experienced executioner, 42-year-old Al-Beshi is entrusted with the task of training the young. “I successfully trained my son Musaed, 22, as an executioner and he was approved and chosen,” he says proudly. Training focuses on the way to hold the sword and where to hit, and is mostly through observing the executioner at work.

An executioner’s life, of course, is not all killing. Sometimes it can be amputation of hands and legs. “I use a special sharp knife, not a sword,” he explains. “When I cut off a hand I cut it from the joint. If it is a leg the authorities specify where it is to be taken off, so I follow that.”

Al-Beshi describes himself as a family man. Married before he became an executioner, his wife did not object to his chosen profession. “She only asked me to think carefully before committing myself,” he recalls. “But I don’t think she’s afraid of me,” he smiles. “I deal with my family with kindness and love. They aren’t afraid when I come back from an execution. Sometimes they help me clean my sword.”

A father of seven, he is a proud grandfather already. “I have a married daughter who has a son. He is called Haza, and he’s my pride and joy. And then there are my sons. The oldest one is Saad, and of course there is Musaed, who’ll be the next executioner,” he adds.


Dit is de schoonvader van dhr Cheppi...denk ik.

Dienna
10-06-03, 12:38
Geplaatst door Grietje
Dit is de schoonvader van dhr Cheppi...denk ik. [/B]

Joh! Heb jij wat tegen Cheppih dan? :verward:

Grietje
10-06-03, 12:44
Geplaatst door Dienna
Joh! Heb jij wat tegen Cheppih dan? :verward:

Nee

Ramzi
10-06-03, 13:57
Geplaatst door Grietje

Dit is de schoonvader van dhr Cheppi...denk ik.

:haha: ... wat n grap... http://opkikkertje.nl/smilies/lachen/whoea.gif

medemens
10-06-03, 14:37
ranzig!! je kunt zo alles wel aan de wil van God ophangen.

Bief
10-06-03, 15:57
Living at the sharp end of justice

September 27 2002

France's last executioner tells Hugh Schofield in Fontaine-de-Vaucluse about life with the guillotine.
France's last surviving executioner, Fernand Meyssonnier, recalls with vivid detail the first time he saw the guillotine in action.
"I was 16, and my father asked me if I wanted to watch. He made me stand to one side so I wasn't in the way. Then we heard the call to prayer from a mosque, and my father said it's time.
"The guy came out flanked by two guards. They pushed him on to the plank. I saw the head go between the two uprights, and then in a tenth of a second it was off. And at that moment I just let out a sound like this - aaah! It was strong stuff."
Now 72 and living in retirement in the Provencal village of Fontaine-de-Vaucluse, Meyssonnier is speaking for the first time in public of the 21 years in which he served as the state's "avenging arm" in French Algeria.
His father, Maurice Meyssonnier - a communist bar owner in Algiers - was chief executioner, and in 1947 he inducted his son as an apprentice. By 1958 Fernand had taken part in more than 200 executions. With the start of the war of independence, they were taking place at the rate of five or six a month.


Fernand's father would receive a call at the bar from the prosecutor and they would set off in a van with the guillotine packed in boxes. At the prison they would erect the machine in the courtyard - public executions were banned in 1939 - and rest until dawn.
By the end of his career, Fernand Meyssonnier was occasionally replacing his father and pulling the fatal lever, but normally he was first assistant - a job which consisted of tugging the convict's head through the wooden hole known as the "demi-lunette", or half-lens, and holding it as the blade came down. "You must never give the guy the time to think," he says. "Because if you do he starts moving his head around and that's when you have the mess-ups. The blade comes through his jaw, and you have to use a butcher's knife to finish it off.
"So I'd say 'Go, father!', and - crack! - the head is in my hands, and I put it in the bucket."
Fernand Meyssonnier left Algeria at independence and went to Tahiti where he made his fortune running a bar. He came back to France in 1992 and opened up a Museum of Justice and Punishment at Fontaine-de-Vaucluse, featuring a full-scale model of a guillotine.
The museum did not prosper, and the artefacts - which also included mediaeval torture instruments and a preserved head - are now stored in his basement.
In the living room upstairs Fernand Meyssonnier keeps a miniature replica of a guillotine which he made as a present for his father at the age of 15. A pair of spectacles in the coffin-basket belonged to one of his victims.
The surreal air is enhanced by a pair of grey parrots in a cage that he has trained to whistle the Marseillaise, and shout in French "Off with his head - Long live Meyssonnier!" "I am fond of a laugh," he says.
Meyssonnier has no sympathy for his victims, who he says were all guilty of hideous crimes. As for the guillotine, it was simply a highly efficient - and therefore merciful - form of killing.
Times have changed now. The death penalty was abolished in France in 1981, and Meyssonnier accepts this as logical. "We have all become much more sensitive now," he says. "But remember - pity is such a recent thing." (vet is van mij, Bief)
- AFP

In samenhang met het bericht van Grietje:
1. Beulswerk is een ambacht, een goede beul houdt van z'n werk.
2. Je komt er meestal in terecht om dat je familie al in het vak zit.
3. Je houdt het niet vol als je niet 200% overtuigd bent van de
heersende rechtsorde - een bepaald soort kadaverdiscipline.
4. Hoe lang is het geleden dat in Europa nog werd geëxecuteerd...

Grietje
10-06-03, 18:09
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In samenhang met het bericht van Grietje:
1. Beulswerk is een ambacht, een goede beul houdt van z'n werk.
2. Je komt er meestal in terecht om dat je familie al in het vak zit.
3. Je houdt het niet vol als je niet 200% overtuigd bent van de
heersende rechtsorde - een bepaald soort kadaverdiscipline.
4. Hoe lang is het geleden dat in Europa nog werd geëxecuteerd... [/B]


Zou ook handig zijn als je in 'samenhang met het bericht van Grietje' erbij vermeldt dat in Frankrijk de beulen geen handen of voeten hoefden af te hakken.

Joesoef
10-06-03, 19:21
Geplaatst door Grietje
Zou ook handig zijn als je in 'samenhang met het bericht van Grietje' erbij vermeldt dat in Frankrijk de beulen geen handen of voeten hoefden af te hakken.

En dat de beulen alles onthoofden zonder dat er ook maar iets van een proces geweest was. Niet dat ze in de SSA dat wel doen maar toch....

Bief
10-06-03, 20:29
Geplaatst door Grietje
Zou ook handig zijn als je in 'samenhang met het bericht van Grietje' erbij vermeldt dat in Frankrijk de beulen geen handen of voeten hoefden af te hakken.

hakken is hakken, toch!?

Wat ik "in samenhang met het bericht van Grietje" eigenlijk opvallender vind is dat de SA beul zich "in dienst vindt staan van God" en de Franse beul "zich God voelt".

Bief
10-06-03, 20:30
Geplaatst door Joesoef
En dat de beulen alles onthoofden zonder dat er ook maar iets van een proces geweest was. Niet dat ze in de SSA dat wel doen maar toch....

Blind faith...