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lennart
19-06-03, 16:07
Settlers torch Palestinian fields to disrupt Yitzhar removal

Violent clashes erupted Thursday between settlers
and security forces as evacuation began of the
illegal outpost of Mitzpeh Yitzhar, adjacent to
the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, south of
Nablus.

Settlers ignited
Palestinian-owned wheat fields
and olive groves in the area in
an attempt to disrupt the
operation, which was the first
to remove an inhabited outpost.
Ten uninhabited outposts were
removed last week.

The hundreds of paratroopers and
police who managed to make their way to the
hilltop were armed only with the knives they
carried to remove the settlers' tents.

Hundreds of settlers turned back soldiers
attempting to take down the main tent located
in the center of the outpost, and hundreds more
settlers were reported to be making their way
to the site to join the resistence. Security
forces resumed their efforts at around 3 P.M.
to remove the outpost after halting it for a
few hours in the afternoon.

Four police officers and three settlers suffered
extremely light injuries. Yesha Council leaders
and National Union Knesset members Uri Ariel
and Arye Eldad were also at the outpost.

The army placed a closure on all settlements
near the Mitzpeh Yitzhar outpost and erected
roadblocks on area roads to prevent more
settlers from joining the fray.

But settlers pushed aside many roadblocks in
order to reach the outpost, and ignited fields.
Military vehicles encountered difficulties
arriving at Mitzpeh Yitzhar, due to youths who
placed obstacles as well as themselves on roads
and paths leading to the outpost.

Settlers said that some of them had been
arrested.

Dozens of additional settlers from nearby
settlements arrived at the outpost during the
initial stages of the evacuation in order to
join the efforts to deter the security forces.

Yosi Peli, a settler from Yitzhar, said that
despite the large contingent of troops, the
protesters remained committed to retaining the
outpost.

"This is our land, our home," he said. "Tomorrow
we will be here again on this hill or on other
hills."

Peli showed The Associated Press a list of rules
of engagement provided by the settlers council.
Demonstrators were advised to avoid violence
and to use passive resistance.

But, Peli said, "When someone is trying to take
you from your home it's difficult to know what
will be."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/305560.html

Ongetwijfeld een fantastische spectakel voor op Israelische en internationale televisie. Met mensen die in de regering zitten aanwezig om de kolonisten te steunen. Met de kolonisten die opnieuw bevestigingen dat zij alle begrip hebben voor extreme maatregelen als je huis wordt afgepakt (de afgelopen dagen zijn ook weer 15 Palestijnse huizen vernietigd). Kolonisten ongestoord Palestijnse grond in de brand kunnen steken en roadblocks kunnen opruimen (moeten Palestijnen eens proberen). :moe:

schep
19-06-03, 16:36
doet me denken aan bericht gisteren op 2 vandaag of 6 uur journaal ofzo. Hoewel sommige nederzettingen inderdaad worden opgeruimd (y) worden op andere plekken gewoon nieuwe gebouwd. Vreemd genoeg zie je pas in hoe krom dat is als beelden en interviews op televisie komen:

Midden in de olijfgaard van een palestijnse boer zijn twee huizen neergezet. Met andere woorden: hij is onteigend en mag niet meer op zijn eigen grond komen om te oogsten. Het land is van de settlers en het ziet er naar uit dat binnenkort de boel wordt platgegooid om er een compleet dorp te bouwen. Lekkere jongens die settlers :brozac:

taouanza
19-06-03, 17:59
Geplaatst door schep
doet me denken aan bericht gisteren op 2 vandaag of 6 uur journaal ofzo. Hoewel sommige nederzettingen inderdaad worden opgeruimd (y) worden op andere plekken gewoon nieuwe gebouwd. Vreemd genoeg zie je pas in hoe krom dat is als beelden en interviews op televisie komen:

Midden in de olijfgaard van een palestijnse boer zijn twee huizen neergezet. Met andere woorden: hij is onteigend en mag niet meer op zijn eigen grond komen om te oogsten. Het land is van de settlers en het ziet er naar uit dat binnenkort de boel wordt platgegooid om er een compleet dorp te bouwen. Lekkere jongens die settlers :brozac:


maar dat gebeurt alleen omdat de palestijnen niet ophouden met zichzelf opblazen.
als de palestijnse zelfmoordenaars stoppen, stoppen ook de kolonisten.
als je me niet gelooft vraag maar aan 151 steenpuisten,israelygirl,joop r,waiting,sil,mill en filosoof. echt waar.
die palestijnse boer heeft het gewoon naar gemaakt.

an3sdej
19-06-03, 19:28
Het is een onbegrijpelijke situatie. Ik snap niet dat in Israel zelf dit niet opgepikt wordt door de progressieve krachten. Maar binnenkort denk ik toch dat DAT spel van Sharon uit zal zijn!

~Panthera~
19-06-03, 20:30
Geplaatst door an3sdej
Het is een onbegrijpelijke situatie. Ik snap niet dat in Israel zelf dit niet opgepikt wordt door de progressieve krachten. Maar binnenkort denk ik toch dat DAT spel van Sharon uit zal zijn!
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En maar volhouden dat 80% van de Israeliers DIT ook niet willen.
Nou, WAAR zijn die dan ? Ik zie ze nergens.
Tijd om ook eens de straat op te gaan ?? :D

lennart
24-06-03, 17:07
Uri Avnery over de televisieshow:



The Best Show in Town: Israeli soldiers battling settlers

Uri Avnery
24/06/2003

The most talented director could not have done better. It was a perfect show.

Television viewers all over the world saw heroic Israeli soldiers on their screens battling the fanatical settlers. Close-ups: faces twisted with passion, a soldier lying on a stretcher, a young woman crying in despair, children weeping, youngsters storming forward in fury, masses of people wrestling with each other. A battle of life and death.

There is no room for doubt: Ariel Sharon is leading a heroic fight against the settlers in order to fulfil his promise to remove “unauthorized” outposts, even “inhabited” ones. The old warrior is again facing a determined enemy without flinching.

The conclusion is self-evident, both in Israel and throughout the world: if such a tumultuous battle takes place for a tiny outpost inhabited by hardly a dozen people, how can one expect Sharon to remove 90 outposts, as promised in the Road Map? If things look like that when he has to remove a handful of tents and one small stone building – how can one even dream of evacuating real settlements, where dozens, hundreds or even thousands of families are living?

This must have impressed George Bush and his people. Unfortunately, it has not impressed me.

It makes me laugh.

In the last few years I have witnessed dozens of confrontation with the army. I know what they really look like.

The Israeli army has already demolished thousands of Palestinian homes in the occupied territories. This is how it goes: early in the morning, hundreds of soldiers surround the land. Behind them come the tanks and bulldozers, and the action starts. When despair drives the inhabitants to resist, the soldiers hit them with sticks, throw tear gas grenades, shoot rubber-coated metal bullets and, if the resistance is stronger, live ammunition, too. Old people are thrown on the ground, women dragged along, young people handcuffed and pushed against the wall. After a few minutes, it’s all over.

Well, they’ll say, that’s done to Arabs. They don’t do this to Jews.

Wrong. They certainly do this to Jews. Depends who the Jews are.

I, for example, am a Jew. I have been attacked with tear gas five times so far. Once it was a special gas, and for a few moments I was afraid that I was going to choke to death.

During one of the blockades on Ramallah we decided to bring food to the beleaguered town.

We were some three thousand Israeli peace activists, both Jews and Arabs. At the A-Ram checkpoint, north of Jerusalem, a line of policemen and soldiers stopped us. There was an exchange of insults and a lot of shouting. Suddenly we were showered with tear gas canisters. The thousands dispersed in panic, coughing and choking, some were trampled; one of our group, an 82-year old Jew and kibbutznik, was injured.

I have witnessed demonstrations in which rubber-coated bullets were shot at Israeli citizens (generally Arabs). Once I was in the gas-filled rooms of a school at Um-al-Fahem in Israel.

If the army had really wanted to evacuate Mitpe-Yitzhar quickly and efficiently, it would have used tear gas. The whole business would have been over in a few minutes. But then there would not have been dramatic pictures on TV, and George W. would have asked his friend Arik: “Hey, why don’t you finish with all the outposts in a week?”

In other words, this was a well-produced show for TV.

A few days before, the leaders of the settlers met with Ariel Sharon. As they left and faced the cameras they uttered dark threats, but anyone who knows these people and looked at their faces on TV could see that there were no strong emotions at work. Of course, the “Yesha rabbis” (Yesha is settlerese for the West Bank), a group of bearded political functionaries, called on the soldiers to disobey orders and requested the LORD and the messiah to come to their help, but even they lacked real passion.

Why? Because all of them knew that everything has been agreed in advance. The army chiefs and the leaders of the settlers, comrades and partners for a long time, sat together and decided what would happen, and, more importantly, what would not happen: no sudden attack, no efforts to prevent thousands of young people from reaching the place well in advance, no use of sticks, water cannon, tear gas, rubber-coated bullets or any other means beyond the use of bare hands. The soldiers would not wear helmets nor be equipped with shields. The settlers would shout and push, but would not hit the soldiers in earnest. The whole show would be less violent then a normal scuffle with British soccer hooligans, but would look on TV like a desperate battle between titanic forces.

Ariel Sharon has some experience with this kind of thing. A dozen years ago he directed a similar show when, following the peace treaty with Egypt, he was ordered by Prime Minister Menahem Begin to evacuate the town of Yamit in the northern Sinai peninsula. At the time, Sharon was Minister if Defense. And who was one of the leaders of the dramatic resistance? Tsachi Hanegbi, now the minister in charge of the police.

All the arms of the establishment cooperated this week in the big show. The media devoted many hours to the “battle”. Dozens of settlers were invited to the studios and talked endlessly – while, as far as I saw, not a single person belonging to the active peace camp was called to the microphone.

The courts, too, did their duty: the handful of settlers that were arrested for resisting violently were sent home after spending a day or two in jail. The courts, who never show any mercy when Arabs appear before them, treated the fanatical settlers like erring sons.

The whole comedy would have been funny, if it did not concern a very serious problem. Such an “outpost” looks like a harmless cluster of mobile homes on top of a god-forsaken hill, but it is far from being innocuous. It is a symptom of a cancerous growth. Not for nothing did Ariel Sharon – the very same Sharon – call upon the settlers a few years ago to take control of all the hills of “Judea and Samaria”.

The disease develops like this: a group of rowdies occupies a hilltop, some miles from an established settlement, and puts a mobile home there. After some time, the “outpost” already consists of a number of mobile homes. A generator and a water-tower are brought in. Women with babies appear on the scene. A fence is set up. The army sends some units to defend them. They declare that for security reasons, Palestinians are not allowed to come near, in order to prevent them from spying and preparing an attack. The security zone becomes bigger and bigger. The inhabitants of the neighboring Palestinian villages cannot reach some of their orchards and fields any more. It someone tries, he is liable to be shot. Every settler has a weapon, and he has nothing to fear from the law if he uses it against a suspicious Arab. All Arabs are suspicious, of course.

As it so happens, I have some experience with Mitzpe Yitzhak, the particular outpost that figured in this week’s show. Some months ago we were called by the inhabitants of the Palestinian village Habala to help them pick their olives in a grove near this “outpost”. When the pickers came near to the outpost, the settlers opened fire. An Israeli in our group was wounded when a bullet struck a rock at his feet.

The “unauthorized” outposts were in fact established systematically, with the help of the army and according to its planning. When several outposts take root in a region, the Palestinian villages are choked between them. Their life becomes hell. The settlers and officers clearly hope that in the end they will give up and clear out.

Will Sharon really evacuate them by the dozens? That depends, of course, on his friend George W. If the “hudna” (truce) between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas is achieved, Bush may perhaps exert serious pressure on Sharon. When I visited Yasser Arafat yesterday, he seemed to be cautiously optimistic. But he, too, said that there are no more than four months left for getting things moving: starting from November, the American President will be busy getting himself reelected.

This means that Sharon has only to produce a few more shows of this sort for television, and then he and the settlers will be able to breathe freely once again.

Maarten
25-06-03, 03:15
Prachtig staaltje van pressie- en uitstelpolitiek! Keurig afgeroomde PR! Crimineel tot op het bot natuurlijk..
Karadzic is echt een kleine jongen bij dit werk, want de israeli's lukt het zelfs om buitenlandse steun te krijgen...
Maar wist je dat de israeli's al 30 jaar zo werken? Zo lang als ik de zaak ken, wordt er al op deze manier gerotzooid... Perfecte timing altijd.

Ze zijn er wel iets beter in geworden.. Maar weet je wat het ergste is? Ze hóeven er niet eens beter in te worden, want de wereld vreet het tóch wel! Niet in de laatste plaats die goedbedoelende nederlanders. Net Friese Stamboekkoeien..

Nou is het grootste deel van de nederlanders al pro-Palestijns, of zeker anti-Sharon, meen ik. Het enige wat we hier misschien nog nodig hebben voor een andere politiek, dat is een aanpak van de media. De "naiviteit" daar kun je niet meer onschuldig noemen. Ik snap echt niet, dat ze daar nog over Hamas liggen te frobelen.. Die hele roadmap-setting is weer een fopspeen. En áltijd maken de Israeli's het weer spannend, en áltijd leidt dat weer tot uitstel! Die snáppen dat de buitenwereld van spannende episodes houdt.. Zouden ze nog een keer wakker worden bij het Journaal en Netwerk, of moeten we er toch maar van uitgaan, dat de joodse lobby zijn werk al goed gedaan heeft?