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Simon
10-07-03, 11:10
Iraq weapons 'unlikely to be found'

Senior UK Whitehall sources no longer believe weapons of mass destruction will be found in Iraq, the BBC has learned
BBC political editor Andrew Marr said "very senior sources" in Whitehall had virtually ruled out the possibility of finding the weapons.

They believe they did exist - but were hidden or destroyed by Saddam Hussein before the war.

Former Foreign Secretary Robin Cook said the admissions were a "dramatic development" and ex-Prime Minister John Major has called for a full independent inquiry into the basis for war.

Mr Cook, who resigned as leader of the Commons in the run-up to the war, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Parliament voted for war because it was told that Saddam did have real weapons of mass destruction.

"Indeed what the prime minister said on the eve of the war was that the weapons posed a real and present danger, either because [Saddam] might use them or because he might pass them to terrorist groups."

He said it would have been better to have given the UN weapons inspectors more time to finish their job, rather than rushing to war.

"We would now know what we're being told, that Saddam did not have those weapons... and we'd have found out without a war in which thousands were killed."

If the arms existed but had not been found by coalition forces, he added, officials should be "unable to go to sleep at night" for fear the weapons could be falling into terrorists' hands.

US admission

Earlier, Downing Street said the prime minister stood by what he told a Commons committee.

Mr Blair told MPs then: "I have absolutely no doubt at all that we will find evidence of weapons of mass destruction programmes."

However, reporters noted his careful language, referring to weapons programmes rather than the weapons themselves.


The coalition did not act in Iraq because we had discovered dramatic new evidence of Iraq's pursuit of weapons of mass destruction
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld

Making his inquiry call, Mr Major said he had supported the war, partly because he knew Iraq had possessed weapons of mass destruction in the early 1990s.

Like many others, he had accepted the government's warnings but said "quite a few" of those alerts were now being questioned.

"It has to be cleared up because it is in the government's interest to clear it up," said Mr Major.

"We are in the middle of the war against terror and nobody knows what our troops may be asked to do next.

"It is essential that the word of government and the intelligence services is readily accepted by Parliament and the public."

The latest twist in the weapons row came as the US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld admitted the US had had no fresh intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before going to war.

But it saw existing information in a new light after September 11, he told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

And he said weapons would eventually be found in Iraq.

Paper proof

Andrew Marr stressed that government and Whitehall figures were "still sure" Iraq did have major weapons of mass destruction programmes before the war.

"The assumption is that Saddam Hussein for whatever reason destroyed them or hid them beyond finding before the war started," he told Today.

"And there's no doubt also in their minds that they will turn up interviews with scientists, paper documentation and so on.

"But nobody's been killed by paper documentation ever, and it does change the nature of things."

It was still possible the Iraqi Survey Group - a team of experts tasked with looking for evidence of weapons - might turn up some weapons, he said.

"But they're clearly now preparing the ground for that not to be the case."

Liberal Democrats foreign affairs spokesman Menzies Campbell urged the government to "come clean" about whether it believed weapons would be found in Iraq.

Both the Conservatives and Lib Dems want an independent inquiry, headed by a judge, into the pre-war intelligence.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3054549.stm

Published: 2003/07/10 07:53:58 GMT

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De Rode Roos
10-07-03, 12:00
De wapens zijn er nooit geweest. En Saddam is niet echt slim geweest door die wapens te ontwikkelen en vervolgens te vernietigen net wanneer hij die nodig had. Het is dus allemaal onlogisch. We zijn de oorlog ingeronseld dmv leugens en bedrog.

De enige manier waarop ze het nog kunnen goedmaken is stoppen met dat neo-conservatieve buitenlandse beleid. Iraq militair totaal verlaten en vele miljarden dollars aan dat land doneren. Dan een echt internationaal reconstructiemacht van technici, dokters, architecten, etc inhuren voor een paar jaar totaal op de kosten van de VS. Vervolgens oliebronnen aan de Iraqi's overlaten en niet zelf ff een winstje bij pakken. Het kost een hoop geld, maar dan hadden ze Irak maar niet moeten proberen te koloniseren.