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lennart
19-07-03, 18:05
U.S. Unprepared for Iraq Order Collapse - Wolfowitz
Fri July 18, 2003 11:49 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said the United States was unprepared for the collapse of law and order in post war Iraq and the subsequent difficulties there, the Los Angeles Times said on Friday.
Wolfowitz, a leading architect of the war in Iraq, told the paper that no amount of advance planning could have foreseen the collapse in law and order after the U.S. and British military victory.

"The so-called forces of law and order (in Baghdad) just kind of collapsed. There is not a single plan that would have dealt with that," Wolfowitz was quoted as telling the newspaper.

"This is a country that was ruled by a gang of terrorist criminals and they're still around. They're threatening Iraqis and killing Americans," he said.

Wolfowitz was interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by the L.A. Times into the apparent failure to plan sufficiently for postwar Iraq.

Wolfowitz, who was in Baghdad on Friday, and other senior U.S. officials interviewed, said the speed of the U.S. military victory had created problems in itself, leaving large areas of Iraq under only nominal control by U.S. and British forces.

But Wolfowitz said: "I would not for a moment go back and say 'Gee we should have gone slower so we could have had more forces built up behind us to control areas that we went past."

The Los Angeles Times investigation said serious multi-agency discussions on post-war Iraq started only in February and they had been plagued by false assumptions and infighting among various government departments and agencies.

Jay Garner, the retired army general who was appointed the first civilian administrator of Iraq, said there was little co-ordination between the various departments.

"Each one of them did their own planning and they did it ... with the perspective of their agency. What needed to happen was the horizontal integration of these plans," Garner was quoted as telling the L.A. Times.

Senior officials and experts noted that many of the doomsday predictions over the war had proved wrong, including forecasts for a long and bloody battle for Baghdad, instability across the Arab world, mass oil field fires, a refugee crisis, famine, and the threat of Turkey intervening.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=5NLMPPS2I0ZQECRBAEOCF EY?type=politicsNews&storyID=3116691

En ondanks alle waarschuwingen hebben ze nog niets gedaan om het Post-Saddam tijdperk te plannen, ze mogen hun handjes dichtknijpen dat het allemaal nog zo aardig eraan toegaat. De meeste van die voorspellingen kunnen namelijk nog altijd gebeuren en zijn deels ook gaande.

moenna
19-07-03, 22:58
Geplaatst door lennart

Senior officials and experts noted that many of the doomsday predictions over the war had proved wrong, including forecasts for a long and bloody battle for Baghdad, instability across the Arab world, mass oil field fires, a refugee crisis, famine, and the threat of Turkey intervening.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=5NLMPPS2I0ZQECRBAEOCF EY?type=politicsNews&storyID=3116691

En ondanks alle waarschuwingen hebben ze nog niets gedaan om het Post-Saddam tijdperk te plannen, ze mogen hun handjes dichtknijpen dat het allemaal nog zo aardig eraan toegaat. De meeste van die voorspellingen kunnen namelijk nog altijd gebeuren en zijn deels ook gaande. [/B]

Ja echt he. Je zou eigenlijk verwachten dat als ze rekening hadden gehouden met bovenstaande scenario ze een overkill aan voorzorgsmaatregelen hadden getroffen, die ze nu juist kunnen gebruiken om de ontstane chaos te stabilliseren. Maar het wordt daar met de dag erger :traan1:.





Moge Allah de Irakezen bijstaan.

Ron Haleber
20-07-03, 09:54
Geplaatst door moenna
Ja echt he. Je zou eigenlijk verwachten dat als ze rekening hadden gehouden met bovenstaande scenario ze een overkill aan voorzorgsmaatregelen hadden getroffen, die ze nu juist kunnen gebruiken om de ontstane chaos te stabilliseren. Maar het wordt daar met de dag erger :traan1:.

Moge Allah de Irakezen bijstaan.


De Irakees Ibrahim al-Marashi schreef als reactie op Tony Blairs plagiaat van zijn internet-artikel:http://www.maroc.nl/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67958


Ibrahim al-Marashi als antwoord op Moenna:
These failed forecasts could partially be attributed to American and British academic circles, where the study of Iraq has been neglected, with only a handful of scholars that can be genuinely characterized as experts.

The literature on Iraq suffers from a lack of research conducted within the country itself. Simple logistical reasons have led to this deficiency, as archival work and fieldwork in Iraq was nearly impossible.

It is questionable that even the few works on Iraq were properly con-
sulted and analysed by the powers that conducted Operation Iraqi
Freedom.

These doubts were confirmed when a UK intelligence dossier on Iraq's intelligence agencies, presented to Colin Powell in February 2003, was found to be plagiarized from a historical, academic article I had written on Iraq's intelligence agencies.




Ik ben er zeker van dat al die stukken en goede analyses van Lennart hier - wel ff stevig geupsekst natuurlijk - zullen dienen als "intelligence" rapport voor de volgende Golfoorlog.

Ben wel benieuwd hoeveel royalties Lennart - via Gerard Spong - gaat binnenslepen bij Tony...! :fpotver: