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Wat George Bush dit jaar in September zal gaan promoten?
Als er 1 goede politieke periode is om iets niet te promoten dan is het in September, mensen komen net van vakantie terug, politieke seizoen begint...
Vorig jaar in September was het de oorlog in Iraq
Het jaar er voor de dreiging van 'moslim'terroristen.
Wat zullen ze dit jaar verzinnen? Vandaag is de speech to the nation van GWB.
Osama Gepakt?
Iran kan bijna nukes maken, tijd om te bombaderen?
Wat wordt de September suprise van dit jaar...
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Wat George Bush dit jaar in September zal gaan promoten?
Als er 1 goede politieke periode is om iets niet te promoten dan is het in September, mensen komen net van vakantie terug, politieke seizoen begint...
Vorig jaar in September was het de oorlog in Iraq
Het jaar er voor de dreiging van 'moslim'terroristen.
Wat zullen ze dit jaar verzinnen? Vandaag is de speech to the nation van GWB.
Osama Gepakt?
Iran kan bijna nukes maken, tijd om te bombaderen?
Wat wordt de September suprise van dit jaar...
Ik denk de dreiging van Hamas....
De Guardian ziet het zo:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1037015,00.html
George Bush will attempt tonight to convince the American people that he has a workable 'exit strategy' to free his forces from the rapidly souring conflict in Iraq, as Britain prepares to send in thousands more troops to reinforce the faltering coalition effort.
Exit-strategy? Dat stond niet in de Neo-Con plannen....
The question now being asked on both sides of the Atlantic is how the allies could find themselves in such trouble. One key mistake both Washington and London made was to assume that, once Baghdad fell, countries such as France and Germany, which had stood on the sidelines, would relent and offer peacekeeping troops. They underestimated the unexpected domestic popularity of anti-war leaders.
'That was the diplomatic advice. That was what we believed would happen, and it didn't,' said one Whitehall source. 'What we were unable to read was how popular the decision [to stay out of Iraq] would be in the long run for the leaders who took it.'
In New York, diplomats were upbeat last night about the chances of securing a UN resolution allowing troops to operate under a UN mandate but with the US retaining operational command. One source in the office of the UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan said such an agreement could 'transform the occupation'
Complications remain, however. The French and, to a lesser extent, the Germans are playing it tough, aware that they have Bush over a barrel, British sources say. 'They can squeeze more concessions out of Bush at the moment and they know it,' one source said.
Terug naar de VN, Powell heeft duidelijk meer macht gekregen over de President. De Wilson Affaire wordt zeker goed gebruikt door Powell.
A classified report drawn up by the US US Joint Chiefs of Staff and leaked last week blamed hurried and inadequate planning for the crisis, with too great a focus on an invasion and not enough on organising the peace. As the leading dove, Powell's stock is now rising in the White House, while that of the President's hawkish National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice, is judged to be falling.
'Condi Rice is in trouble,' said one Whitehall source.
'She has been consistently wrong since this thing started, wrong about what would happen, and Colin Powell has been consistently right.' The Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's insistence during a trip to Iraq last week that the situation was 'getting better every day' is also ringing increasingly hollow.
De Havikken aan de verliezende kant volgens de Guardian. Kortom de Guardian verwacht kortom een 'dovish speech to the nation'.
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Ik denk de dreiging van Hamas....
Hamas is ook een goede. De belangrijkste reden dat de roadmap al in September is verbroken waren de geluiden uit Washington dat veel leden van het congres een militaire ingreep van de VS in Palestina zouden steunen. De extreem-rechtse Israelische regering schrok zich een hoedje, het Israelische leger zag het als een motie van afkeuring over het Israelische militaire apparaat en vandaar dus ook dat plannen om de Gaza strook aan te vallen nu serieus worden overwogen. Een eventueel militair ingrijpen van de VS is hierom weer naar achteren opgeschoven, maar de grote vraag is, wie heeft de meeste invloed op de speech van Bush... de Neocons of Powell.
Ron Haleber
07-09-03, 17:12
Geplaatst door lennart
Wat George Bush dit jaar in September zal gaan promoten?
Vorig jaar in September was het de oorlog in Iraq
Wat zullen ze dit jaar verzinnen? Vandaag is de speech to the nation van GWB.
Wat wordt de September suprise van dit jaar...
Sjors heeft zich flink in de nesten gewerkt. Wil hij nog een kansje maken om de verkiezingen te winnen dan zal hij niets meer moeten promoten en zich rustig moeten houden...
De neo-cons bijten in het zand...
Het enigste wat er te promoten valt, is dat de anderen er aan gaan meebetalen dat hij stevig op zijn bek gevallen is in Irak...
Zijn droom om via een paar poppetjes voor de komende 10 jaar over de olieprijs te kunnen beslissen via Irak, gaat in rook op!
Dus gaat hij heel schijnheilig de VN "promoten"... Powell is er al stevig mee bezig en heeft gezegd; kom maar met jullie eisen...
Jongens betaal maar ff mee aan die sof van Sjors en stuur troepen. Het helpt wel niet maar dan vallen we in ieder geval samen op ons bek en maakt Sjors nog een kansje!
Report: Iranian scientists secretly working on nuclear bomb
07-09-2003
Up to ninety scientists are working clandestinely on the construction of a nuclear bomb in the Islamic Republic of Iran under the supervision of the Defense Ministry, according to a German weekly report on Sunday.
Tagesspiegel am Sonntag, quoting intelligence sources, said Tehran had bought high-tension switches and high-speed cameras to conduct nuclear tests.
Last week, Iran's president reiterated his country is not seeking to make atomic weapons. "Tehran considers international concerns about nuclear issues as justified, but we give assurances that nuclear weapons have no place in Iran's defense policies," Khatami was quoted as saying.(Albawaba.com)
Ron Haleber
07-09-03, 18:11
Geplaatst door lennart Report: Iranian scientists secretly working on nuclear bomb
07-09-2003
Dit is geen haalbare kaart voor Bush als casus belli... Iran is nog lang niet zover!
Ook Iran is niet gek. Met wat druk houden ze het atoomagentschap aan de lijn..
Eerder is Korea een probleem - die hebben lange afstandsraketten!... Maar daar spelen ze China en Japan tegen uit...
Nee, alles wijst op wat ik al zei: "Sjors heeft zich flink in de nesten gewerkt. Wil hij nog een kansje maken om de verkiezingen te winnen dan zal hij niets meer moeten promoten en zich rustig moeten houden..."
Inderdaad, dus een aanslag of een nieuwe oorlog.
Wellicht moet Powell uit de weg worden geruimd vanwege zijn rol in de Wilson-affaire.
Powell: geen leidende rol VN in Irak
Uitgegeven: 7 september 2003 19:17
WASHINGTON - De Amerikaanse regering zijn geenszins van plan de Verenigde Naties een leidende rol te bedelen in de wederopbouw van Irak. Dat zei minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Colin Powell zondag in een serie interviews op de Amerikaanse televisie.
"De leidende rol moet vervuld worden door de Verenigde Staten", aldus de bewindsman. "Wij zijn degenen die de macht in het land hebben overgenomen, wij dragen regeringsverantwoordelijkheid."
In de Veiligheidsraad circuleert een nieuwe ontwerpresolutie van de VS die de rol van de volkerenorganisatie in Irak vergroot. Verder zou er een door de VN gesteunde multionationale vredesmacht moeten komen onder Amerikaans bevel.
Frankrijk en Duitsland hebben al laten weten dat het voorstel niet ver genoeg gaat. Zij willen meer macht voor de VN en het Iraakse volk. Parijs en Berlijn hebben zich in de Veiligheidsraad steeds verzet tegen een Amerikaans ingrijpen in Irak.
Powell verdedigde de ontwerpresolutie. Hij omschreef als "misplaatst" de verwachting dat de VN snel in staat zouden zijn de leiding over de reconstructie van Irak op zich te nemen. Hij zei verder dat de soevereiniteit pas aan de Irakezen kan worden overgedragen als een nieuwe regering in Bagdad is geïnstalleerd.
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Ron Haleber
07-09-03, 18:36
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Inderdaad, dus een aanslag...
Wellicht moet Powell uit de weg worden geruimd vanwege zijn rol in de Wilson-affaire.
Ja Lennart als je over de complot-tour gaat geef ik je volkomen gelijk!
Als Powell en zijn staf uit de weg worden geruimd, dan hebben de neo-cons carte blanche...
Want Sjors kan zijn staf niet van vandaag op morgen vervangen... En met die gasten is alles mogelijk!
Geplaatst door Ron Haleber
Sjors heeft zich flink in de nesten gewerkt. Wil hij nog een kansje maken om de verkiezingen te winnen dan zal hij niets meer moeten promoten en zich rustig moeten houden...
De neo-cons bijten in het zand...
Het enigste wat er te promoten valt, is dat de anderen er aan gaan meebetalen dat hij stevig op zijn bek gevallen is in Irak...
Zijn droom om via een paar poppetjes voor de komende 10 jaar over de olieprijs te kunnen beslissen via Irak, gaat in rook op!
Dus gaat hij heel schijnheilig de VN "promoten"... Powell is er al stevig mee bezig en heeft gezegd; kom maar met jullie eisen...
Jongens betaal maar ff mee aan die sof van Sjors en stuur troepen. Het helpt wel niet maar dan vallen we in ieder geval samen op ons bek en maakt Sjors nog een kansje!
:hihi:
Zoiets ja..
Eigenlijk zouden de VN en de EU hun handen hélemaal van de zaak af moeten trekken!
Bush heeft staan gillen, dat hij de irakezen zou bevrijden, en er Vrede en democratie zou brengen?
Laat hem dat maar waar maken ook!
Waren de VN niet "irrelevant"? En de EU ook? Nou, laat ze het sprookje maar waarmaken dan!
Dat zal ze dwingen om veel meer centen in de zaak te steken, herstelschade te betalen, en rekening te houden met wat het volk daar wil. Ze kunnen zich daar geen puinhoop veroorloven, want dat is meteen het failliet van de retoriek van Bush! En van de amerikaanse overmoed! Hun arrogantie is echt een bedreiging voor de wereldvrede, en dat moeten ze maar een keer leren ook.
Heel stom, dat de VN en de EU nog mee willen doen. Die krijgen straks de medeschuld van het falen, maar zorgen er hoe dan ook voor, dat de amerikanen op de oude voet door kunnen gaan, en ongericht projectiel blijven.
Ron Haleber
08-09-03, 07:10
De uitslag van de vraag van Lennart:
Bush en zijn kliek blijken zich idd géén nieuwe targets te stellen. Bush doet of zijn neus bloedt: Hij wil de VN en Europa zien te paaien om mee te betalen...
Maar eerst zal de USA $ 87 miljard dollar zelf op tafel moeten leggen om te verhullen dat hij op zijn bek viel.
De zaken blijken zich dus te ontwikkelen zoals ik boven voorspelde. Nietwaar Lennart...?
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39309000/jpg/_39309964_afp203nidexmural.jpg
Bush speech: Full text BBC News:
Bush set out his case for a continued US military presence in Iraq
The following is the full text of the televised address by US President George W Bush in which he defended his administration's policy on Iraq:
Good evening. I have asked for this time to keep you informed of America's actions in the war on terror.
Nearly two years ago, following deadly attacks on our country, we began a systematic campaign against terrorism. These months have been a time of new responsibilities, and sacrifice, and national resolve, and great progress.
America and a broad coalition acted first in Afghanistan by destroying the training camps of terror and removing the regime that harboured al-Qaeda. In a series of raids and actions around the world, nearly two-thirds of al-Qaeda's known leaders have been captured or killed, and we continue on al-Qaeda's trail.
We have exposed terrorist front groups, seized terrorist accounts, taken new measures to protect our homeland and uncovered sleeper cells inside the United States.
In Iraq, we are helping the long-suffering people of that country to build a decent and democratic society at the centre of the Middle East
And we acted in Iraq, where the former regime sponsored terror, possessed and used weapons of mass destruction, and for 12 years defied the clear demands of the United Nations Security Council. Our coalition enforced these international demands in one of the swiftest and most humane military campaigns in history.
For a generation leading up to 11 September 2001, terrorists and their radical allies attacked innocent people in the Middle East and beyond, without facing a sustained and serious response. The terrorists became convinced that free nations were decadent and weak. And they grew bolder, believing that history was on their side.
Since America put out the fires of 11 September and mourned our dead, and went to war, history has taken a different turn. We have carried the fight to the enemy. We are rolling back the terrorist threat to civilisation, not on the fringes of its influence, but at the heart of its power.
Threat to US
This work continues. In Iraq, we are helping the long-suffering people of that country to build a decent and democratic society at the centre of the Middle East. Together we are transforming a place of torture chambers and mass graves into a nation of laws and free institutions. This undertaking is difficult and costly, yet worthy of our country and critical to our security.
The Middle East will either become a place of progress and peace, or it will be an exporter of violence and terror that takes more lives in America and in other free nations. The triumph of democracy and tolerance in Iraq, in Afghanistan and beyond would be a grave setback for international terrorism.
Two years ago, I told the Congress and the country that the war on terror would be a lengthy war, a different kind of war fought on many fronts in many places. Iraq is now the central front
The terrorists thrive on the support of tyrants and the resentments of oppressed peoples. When tyrants fall and resentment gives way to hope, men and women in every culture reject the ideologies of terror and turn to the pursuits of peace. Everywhere that freedom takes hold, terror will retreat.
Our enemies understand this. They know that a free Iraq will be free of them, free of assassins and torturers and secret police. They know that as democracy rises in Iraq, all of their hateful ambitions will fall like the statues of the former dictator. And that is why, five months after we liberated Iraq, a collection of killers is desperately trying to undermine Iraq's progress and throw the country into chaos.
Some of the attackers are members of the old Saddam regime who fled the battlefield and now fight in the shadows. Some of the attackers are foreign terrorists, who have come to Iraq to pursue their war on America and other free nations.
Ongoing attacks
We cannot be certain to what extent these groups work together. We do know they have a common goal, reclaiming Iraq for tyranny. Most, but not all, of these killers operate in one area of the country. The attacks you have heard and read about in the last few weeks have occurred predominantly in the central region of Iraq, between Baghdad and Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's former stronghold.
The north of Iraq is generally stable and is moving forward with reconstruction and self-government. The same trends are evident in the south, despite recent attacks by terrorist groups.
Though their attacks are localised, the terrorists and Saddam loyalists have done great harm. They have ambushed American and British service members who stand for freedom and order.
For America, there will be no going back to the era before 11 September 2001, to false comfort in a dangerous world
They have killed civilian aid workers of the United Nations who represent the compassion and generosity of the world. They have bombed the Jordanian embassy, the symbol of a peaceful Arab country. And last week they murdered a respected cleric and over 100 Muslims at prayer, bombing a holy shrine and a symbol of Islam's peaceful teachings.
This violence is directed not only against our coalition, but against anyone in Iraq who stands for decency and freedom and progress.
There is more at work in these attacks than blind rage. The terrorists have a strategic goal. They want us to leave Iraq before our work is done. They want to shake the will of the civilised world.
In the past, the terrorists have cited the examples of Beirut and Somalia, claiming that if you inflict harm on Americans, we will run from a challenge. In this, they are mistaken.
Two years ago, I told the Congress and the country that the war on terror would be a lengthy war, a different kind of war fought on many fronts in many places. Iraq is now the central front. Enemies of freedom are making a desperate stand there, and there they must be defeated.
This will take time and require sacrifice. Yet we will do what is necessary, we will spend what is necessary to achieve this essential victory in the war on terror, to promote freedom and to make our own nation more secure.
Rebuilding effort
America has done this kind of work before. Following World War II, we lifted up the defeated nations of Japan and Germany and stood with them as they built representative governments. We committed years and resources to this cause. And that effort has been repaid many times over in three generations of friendship and peace.
America today accepts the challenge of helping Iraq in the same spirit, for their sake and our own. Our strategy in Iraq has three objectives: Destroying the terrorists; enlisting the support of other nations for a free Iraq; and helping Iraqis assume responsibility for their own defence and their own future.
Iraq is ready to take the next steps toward self-government. The Security Council resolution we introduce will encourage Iraq's governing council to submit a plan and a timetable for the drafting of a constitution and for free elections
First, we are taking direct action against the terrorists in the Iraqi theatre, which is the surest way to prevent future attacks on coalition forces and the Iraqi people. We are staying on the offensive, with a series of precise strikes against enemy targets increasingly guided by intelligence given to us by Iraqi citizens.
Two multinational divisions, led by the British and the Poles, are serving alongside our forces. And in order to share the burden more broadly, our commanders have requested a third multinational division to serve in Iraq.
Some countries have requested an explicit authorisation of the United Nations Security Council before committing troops to Iraq. I have directed Secretary of State Colin Powell to introduce a new Security Council resolution which would authorize the creation of a multinational force in Iraq to be led by America.
Iraqi sovereignty
I recognise that not all our friends agreed with our decision to enforce the Security Council resolutions and remove Saddam Hussein from power, yet we cannot let past differences interfere with present duties.
Terrorists in Iraq have attacked representatives of the civilised world and opposing them must be the cause of the civilised world.
Members of the United Nations now have an opportunity, and the responsibility, to assume a broader role in assuring that Iraq becomes a free and democratic nation.
Third, we are encouraging the orderly transfer of sovereignty and authority to the Iraqi people. Our coalition came to Iraq as liberators and we will depart as liberators. Right now Iraq has its own governing council, comprised of 25 leaders representing Iraq's diverse people. The governing council recently appointed cabinet ministers to run government departments.
Already more than 90% of towns and cities have functioning local governments which are restoring basic services. We are helping to train civil defence forces to keep order and an Iraqi police service to enforce the law, a facilities protection service, Iraqi border guards to help secure the borders and a new Iraqi army.
In all these roles, there are now some 60,000 Iraqi citizens under arms, defending the security of their own country. And we are accelerating the training of more.
Fellow citizens, we have been tested these past 24 months, and the dangers have not passed
Iraq is ready to take the next steps toward self-government. The Security Council resolution we introduce will encourage Iraq's governing council to submit a plan and a timetable for the drafting of a constitution and for free elections.
From the outset, I have expressed confidence in the ability of the Iraqi people to govern themselves. Now they must rise to the responsibilities of a free people and secure the blessings of their own liberty.
Our strategy in Iraq will require new resources. We have conducted a thorough assessment of our military and reconstruction needs in Iraq, and also in Afghanistan.
I will soon submit to Congress a request for $87bn. The request will cover ongoing military and intelligence operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, which we expect will cost $66bn over the next year.
This budget request will also support our commitment to helping the Iraqi and Afghan people rebuild their own nations after decades of oppression and mismanagement. We will provide funds to help them improve security. And we will help them to restore basic services, such as electricity and water, and to build new schools, roads and medical clinics.
Afghan reconstruction
This effort is essential to the stability of those nations, and therefore to our own security. Now and in the future, we will support our troops and we will keep our word to the more than 50 million people of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Later this month, Secretary Powell will meet with representatives of many nations to discuss their financial contributions to the reconstruction of Afghanistan.
Next month, he will hold a similar funding conference for the reconstruction of Iraq. Europe, Japan, and states in the Middle East all will benefit from the success of freedom in these two countries, and they should contribute to that success.
The people of Iraq are emerging from a long trial. For them, there will be no going back to the days of the dictator, to the miseries of humiliation he inflicted on that good country. For the Middle East and the world, there will be no going back to the days of fear when a brutal and aggressive tyrant possessed terrible weapons.
And for America, there will be no going back to the era before 11 September 2001, to false comfort in a dangerous world. We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength. They are invited by the perception of weakness. And the surest way to avoid attacks on our own people is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans.
We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities.
Praise for troops
The heaviest burdens in our war on terror fall, as always, on the men and women of our armed forces and our intelligence services. They have removed gathering threats to America and our friends, and this nation takes great pride in their incredible achievements.
We are grateful for their skill and courage, and for their acts of decency, which have shown America's character to the world. We honour the sacrifice of their families, and we mourn every American who has died so bravely, so far from home. The Americans who assume great risks overseas understand the great cause they are in.
Not long ago I received a letter from a captain in the 3rd Infantry Division in Baghdad. He wrote about his pride in serving a just cause and about the deep desire of Iraqis for liberty.
"I see it," he said, "in the eyes of a hungry people every day here. They are starved for freedom and opportunity." And he concluded: "I just thought you'd like a note from the front lines of freedom."
And I want each of them to know - your country thanks you, and your country supports you.
Fellow citizens, we have been tested these past 24 months, and the dangers have not passed. Yet Americans are responding with courage and confidence. We accept the duties of our generation. We are active and resolute in our own defence. We are serving in freedom's cause, and that is the cause of all mankind.
Thank you.
And may God continue to bless America.
Dat laatste, daar is tot nu toe weinig van te zien!
Meer bidden Sjors, tegen de klippen op want je tegenstander kan daar ook wat van!
Kun je die God van jou nu niet eens wat olie-aandeeltjes bieden om hem aan jouw kant te krijgen???
Ok, z'n speech bevatte dus niet de September suprise, of het moet geweest zijn 'the dangers have not passed'.
Ron Haleber
08-09-03, 12:14
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Ok, z'n speech bevatte dus niet de September suprise, of het moet geweest zijn 'the dangers have not passed'.
Lennart,
Real dangers never pass!
Even not the dangers of Maroc.NL - as you'll very well know!
Op CNN werd de speech in Larry King Live onder aanvoering van Judith Miller (de vrouw die al die wmd verhalen heeft verzonnen voor de NYT), behoorlijk afgekraakt en ook de prestatie van de President werd afgekraakt. Het ging zelfs zover dat een Democratisch senaatslid zich hierover verbaasde...
Wat een ontzettend saai verhaal dat van Bush. Allemaal heraldiek, en verder gaat het nergens over.
Niks over Israel en het falen van de roadmap. Ze kunnen ook eigenlijk niks he?..
hé chronische insomniac, wie zijn "ZE"?
Ron Haleber
08-09-03, 15:22
Geplaatst door Maarten
Wat een ontzettend saai verhaal dat van Bush. Allemaal heraldiek, en verder gaat het nergens over.
Niks over Israel en het falen van de roadmap. Ze kunnen ook eigenlijk niks he?..
Maarten, je legt de vinger op de zere plek!
Bush was blijkbaar zo van streek door het ontslag van Abu Mazen, dat hij over hem of de roadmap met geen woord meer sprak.
In feite betekent het dat hij de boel daar maar de boel laat... Een initiatief is dus van hem op dat punt niet meer te verwachten!
Sharon kan verder zijn gang gaan.
Vanmiddag om 13.30 verdedigde Gretta op radio 1 de zaak van de Palestijnen op heel correcte wijze.
Maar ondanks dat bleek 76% vóór het verdwijnen van de democratisch gekozen Arafat...!