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lennart
21-12-03, 17:57
Saddam was captured by Kurds, not US
Sunday, 21 December , 2003, 19:23

Saddam: Caught Napping

London: Ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was captured by Kurdish forces, then drugged and handed over to the American forces as a revenge against the rape of a tribal chief's daughter by the tyrant's psychopathic eldest son Uday, a media report said today.
The full story of the fallen dictator's capture last Saturday in a "spider hole" near his birthplace of Tikrit exposes the version peddled by Americans as incomplete.

According to the report in The Sunday Express, Saddam had already been handed over to Kurdish forces, who then brokered a deal with US commanders.

He was drugged and abandoned, ready for the American troops to recover him.

Saddam was betrayed to the Kurds by a member of the al-Jabour tribe whose daughter was "defiled" by Uday, the report quoting a senior British military intelligence officer said.

The tribe threatened to take revenge. As soon as he heard the news, Saddam visited the family of the dead man and paid them 7 million pounds in blood money with the chilling warning: "If you try to take revenge you will force me to wipe out the al-Jabour tribe."

The news that Saddam was a prisoner and not in hiding would explain his dishevelled state when he was found by Kurdish special forces from the patriotic front and US soldiers.

He was unable to climb out of the hole on his own because the lid that covered it was also sealed down with a carpet and some rubble. A former Iraqi intelligence officer now living in Qatar said he believed Saddam was betrayed shortly after his last audio message was released to the world via Arab television on November 16.

"He was dumped in that hole in Ad Dawr after being handed over to the patriotic front by his own tribesmen and held prisoner until Jalal Talabani made his own negotiations," said the Iraqi.

Talabani is a leader of the Patriotic Front, one of two main Kurdish parties in northern Iraq who fought alongside US forces during the war.

One report said Saddam's cook spiked his food before he was delivered to the front.

According to the report, a western intelligence source stationed in the Middle East said: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."

"There was no question of the tribe claiming the 16 million pounds reward from the US. Apparently it was a question of honour."

"The Kurdish Patriotic Front held him while they thrashed out their own deal. It didn't just involve the reward but it involved gaining some sort of political advantage in the region."

There had been bad blood between the dictator and the al-Jabour tribe since the raped woman's husband tried to take revenge and was shot by Uday's bodyguard.

"The net really began to close when his family fled to Jordan and Uday and Qusay were killed in Mosul. A 20-million pounds reward went to the informant who gave information on their hiding place. However, I doubt if the reward for Saddam will be paid to those directly responsible for his capture."

"They will consider the family honour has been avenged... in Iraqi tribal society it would be frowned upon to accept money."

Immediately after the raid in which Saddam was captured, jubilant Kurdish officials leaked the news to an Iranian news agency hours before the US had a chance to make an official announcement to the assembled media in Baghdad.1

The report also said secret talks are under way to fix a deal in which Saddam will be detained for life in a Qatari prison after his showcase trial.

Intense behind-the-scene negotiations, brokered by Britain, will see the former dictator jailed in the tiny Gulf state, which is host to several US military bases, if the Iraqi court does not push for his execution.

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13341763

Dit verhaal klinkt heel wat realistischer.

850
21-12-03, 18:23
:cola: De schoft zit achter tralies. Dasz het belangrijkste. En ik geloof sowieso nooooit officiele versies zoals je die van de Amerikanen in hap-klare-brokken-stijl krijgt voorgeschoteld op de tv en kranten

Simon
21-12-03, 21:05
Nou in de New York Times staat het vandaag toch wat uitgebreider en geloofwaardiger beschreven. Maar je het is blijkbaar een verhaal dat zich leent voor complot theorieën. Te meer daar een held van de arabische wereld ontluist is op TV en niet zijn pistool gebruikt en vecht zoals men van hem verwacht had.

lennart
21-12-03, 22:08
'Sick' Saddam drugged: visitor
By Peter Wilson in Baghdad
December 20, 2003

A STARTLING new photograph of a sick-looking Saddam Hussein suggests he is being drugged or given strong medication by his US captors.


The man who took the photo told The Weekend Australian last night Hussein appeared very sick when he was visited by Iraqi Governing Council member Ahmed Chalabi two days after being captured near Tikrit.

In the photo Hussein appears in much worse shape than when arrested, with pronounced bags under bloodshot eyes and a sticking plaster on the back of his right hand where he has reportedly been receiving intravenous injections.

Hussein's daughter has claimed her father must be being drugged by his CIA interrogators for him to submit meekly to questioning.

The photo shows the former president, who once lived in a string of palaces, is now being kept in a converted bathroom lit by spotlights, with his bed right next to a toilet on a tiled shower recess.

Hussein's location is a tightly guarded secret, but the only wall-hanging in the room was a US military map of Baghdad - suggesting he was being kept at a US base in the capital, probably at Baghdad airport.

The photo of a sick-looking and unkempt Hussein showed him being visited by Dr Chalabi, who fled Iraq in 1958 after Hussein ordered him killed, and is now the Pentagon's favourite to become the next Iraqi president.

That photo and another in which he is talking to Dr Chalabi in an animated way, caused a stir in Baghdad when they were published on the front page of Al-Mutamar, the newspaper of Dr Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, which said the meeting took place on Monday.

Dr Chalabi has refused to discuss his meeting with Hussein or to release copies of the photo, leaving the world's media to copy the image from his newspaper.

But the man who took the photograph said Hussein was being kept in a converted bathroom measuring 4m by 2 1/2m, with three fluorescent tubes and several spotlights glaring on the room's dank tiles. The only people in the room were Hussein, Dr Chalabi, some US military guards, and the photographer, a senior executive on Dr Chalabi's newspaper.

The photographer, who had stood just two metres from Hussein, said the former dictator was obviously sick, and pointed out his baggy eyes in the photo.

While Dr Chalabi sat on a chair in a raised part of the bathroom, Hussein sat on his bed in a converted shower space next to a toilet in the recessed tiled part of the room.

The room had no windows, and the only other furniture was a wash-basin and a hat rack.

After Hussein's capture on Saturday in a hole on a farm outside a village near Tikrit, US officials released photos and video footage showing him with a long beard but generally looking healthy.

On Sunday, he was visited by Dr Chalabi and three other members of the US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council, who said Hussein appeared defiant and surly but did not describe him as being unwell.

If the photo was taken the following day, as the newspaper reported, then Hussein's health appeared to have deteriorated.

During the visit by Dr Chalabi, Hussein was wearing a plastic jacket over a white traditional-style robe, even though Monday was a warm day in Baghdad.

The Australian
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C4057%2C8216785%255E401%2C00.html

Op die video zag hij er dus beter uit dan toen dit bezoek plaats vond. Volgens de officiele tijdlijn zou dat dus gebeurd moeten zijn in minder dan 1 dag.