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      Standaard Echte joden zijn tegen "isreal"

      http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

      Waarom volgen de zionisten in "isreal" niet de torah?
      The Holy Land was given to the Jewish people on the condition that they observe the Torah and its commandments. When they failed to do this, their sovereignty over the land was taken from them, and they went into exile. From that time, we are prohibited by the Torah with a very grave prohibition to establish a Jewish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world. Rather, we are obligated to be loyal to the nations under whose protection we dwell.
      From ancient times, the relations between the Jewish and Islamic peoples have always been those of peace and brotherhood, and friendship always reigned between them. The proof of this is the fact that for centuries, in all the Arab lands, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in honor and amidst mutual esteem.
      Jews throughout all generations yearned to grace the sacred soil of the Holy Land and to live there. However, their sole purpose was to fulfill the commandments dependent upon the land and to absorb Its holiness. Never, G-d forbid, did they have any nationalist or sovereign intent whatsoever which, as mentioned above, is forbidden to us. Indeed, also here in the Holy Land, our fathers lived in neighborly harmony with the Palestinian residents of the land, helping one another, to mutual benefit.
      Echte joden zoals, 'shalom' die tegen de bezetting zijn worden uitgescholden voor niet-joden/goyim door de zionisten hier op het forum en over de hele wereld....


      leg eens uit magdavid...

      Voor de tijd dat de zionistische aparhtheidsstaat "isreal" er was, hadden de moslims geen problemen met de de joden. We leefden naast elkaar, niks aan de hand. En nu is het allemaal verpest door de zionisten, zoals jij..... De dingen die nog gaan komen... Als ik jullie was zou ik het zo snel mogelijk goed proberen te maken.

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      leg eens uit magdavid...

      Voor de tijd dat de zionistische aparhtheidsstaat "isreal" er was, hadden de moslims geen problemen met de de joden.

      ehhh bullshit ?

      MYTH

      “Modern Arab nations are only anti-Israel and have never been anti-Jewish.”

      FACT
      Arab leaders have repeatedly made clear their animosity toward Jews and Judaism. For example, on November 23, 1937, Saudi Arabia's King Ibn Saud told British Colonel H.R.P. Dickson: "Our hatred for the Jews dates from God's condemnation of them for their persecution and rejection of Isa (Jesus) and their subsequent rejection of His chosen Prophet." He added "that for a Muslim to kill a Jew, or for him to be killed by a Jew ensures him an immediate entry into Heaven and into the august presence of God Almighty."3

      When ****** introduced the Nuremberg racial laws in 1935, he received telegrams of congratulation from all corners of the Arab world.4 Later, during the war, one of his most ardent supporters was the Mufti of Jerusalem.

      Jews were never permitted to live in Jordan. Civil Law No. 6, which governed the Jordanian-occupied West Bank, states explicitly: "Any man will be a Jordanian subject if he is not Jewish."5

      The Arab countries see to it that even young schoolchildren are taught to hate Jews. The Syrian Minister of Education wrote in 1968: "The hatred which we indoctrinate into the minds of our children from their birth is sacred."6


      MYTH

      “Jews who lived in Islamic countries were well-treated by the Arabs.”

      FACT

      While Jewish communities in Islamic countries fared better overall than those in Christian lands in Europe, Jews were no strangers to persecution and humiliation among the Arabs. As Princeton University historian Bernard Lewis has written: "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."22

      Muhammad, the founder of Islam, traveled to Medina in 622 A.D. to attract followers to his new faith. When the Jews of Medina refused to convert and rejected Muhammad, two of the major Jewish tribes were expelled; in 627, Muhammad's followers killed between 600 and 900 of the men, and divided the surviving Jewish women and children amongst themselves.23

      The Muslim attitude toward Jews is reflected in various verses throughout the Koran, the holy book of the Islamic faith. "They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors" (Sura 2:61). According to the Koran, the Jews try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of Allah, the Prophet and the angels (2:97-98).

      Jews were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Jews. In the ninth century, Baghdad's Caliph al-Mutawakkil designated a yellow badge for Jews, setting a precedent that would be followed centuries later in Nazi Germany.24

      At various times, Jews in Muslim lands lived in relative peace and thrived culturally and economically. The position of the Jews was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death.

      When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.

      Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.25

      Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by the Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers, where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830; and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880.26

      Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854*859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran's prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344).27

      The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. In Morocco, which contained the largest Jewish community in the Islamic Diaspora, Jews were made to walk barefoot or wear shoes of straw when outside the ghetto. Even Muslim children participated in the degradation of Jews, by throwing stones at them or harassing them in other ways. The frequency of anti-Jewish violence increased, and many Jews were executed on charges of apostasy. Ritual murder accusations against the Jews became commonplace in the Ottoman Empire.28

      As distinguished Orientalist G.E. von Grunebaum has written:

      It would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.29

      The danger for Jews became even greater as a showdown approached in the UN. The Syrian delegate, Faris el-Khouri, warned: "Unless the Palestine problem is settled, we shall have difficulty in protecting and safeguarding the Jews in the Arab world."30

      More than a thousand Jews were killed in anti-Jewish rioting during the 1940's in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Yemen.31 This helped trigger the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries.

      MYTH

      “As 'People of the Book,' Jews and Christians are protected under Islamic law.”

      FACT

      This argument is rooted in the traditional concept of the "dhimma" ("writ of protection"), which was extended by Muslim conquerors to Christians and Jews in exchange for their subordination to the Muslims. Yet, as French authority Jacques Ellul has observed: "One must ask: 'protected against whom?' When this 'stranger' lives in Islamic countries, the answer can only be: against the Muslims themselves."32

      Peoples subjected to Muslim rule usually had a choice between death and conversion, but Jews and Christians, who adhered to the Scriptures, were allowed as dhimmis (protected persons) to practice their faith. This "protection" did little, however, to insure that Jews and Christians were treated well by the Muslims. On the contrary, an integral aspect of the dhimma was that, being an infidel, he had to acknowledge openly the superiority of the true believer-the Muslim.

      In the early years of the Islamic conquest, the "tribute" (or jizya), paid as a yearly poll tax, symbolized the subordination of the dhimmi.33

      Later, the inferior status of Jews and Christians was reinforced through a series of regulations that governed the behavior of the dhimmi. Dhimmis, on pain of death, were forbidden to mock or criticize the Koran, Islam or Muhammad, to proselytize among Muslims, or to touch a Muslim woman (though a Muslim man could take a non-Muslim as a wife).

      Dhimmis were excluded from public office and armed service, and were forbidden to bear arms. They were not allowed to ride horses or camels, to build synagogues or churches taller than mosques, to construct houses higher than those of Muslims or to drink wine in public. They were forced to wear distinctive clothing and were not allowed to pray or mourn in loud voices-as that might offend the Muslims. The dhimmi had to show public deference toward Muslims- always yielding them the center of the road. The dhimmi was not allowed to give evidence in court against a Muslim, and his oath was unacceptable in an Islamic court. To defend himself, the dhimmi would have to purchase Muslim witnesses at great expense. This left the dhimmi with little legal recourse when harmed by a Muslim.34

      By the twentieth century, the status of the dhimmi in Muslim lands had not significantly improved. H.E.W. Young, British Vice Consul in Mosul, wrote in 1909:

      The attitude of the Muslims toward the Christians and the Jews is that of a master towards slaves, whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed.35

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      Ik snap niet dat de Talmudische kinderbloeddrinkede zionisten die de hele media beheersen zo'n site in de lucht laten! Hoe kan dat nu weer? Ik ga gauw met de mossad bellen, want voor je het weet is MD geen echte Jood meer!

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      Kom je weer met je 'myth', 'fact' ZIONIST LIES!

      geef is hier een reactie op:
      "we are prohibited by the Torah with a very grave prohibition to establish a Jewish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world."
      lol victory intellectuele aardappel.

      in de torah staat geen verbod op de vestiging van de staat israel, er staat de het ware israel wordt gesticht door de messias
      OP PRECIES HETZELFDE STUK LAND!

      knap trouwens dat je zo'n inhoudelijk weerwoord hebt op deze historische gebeurtenissen.
      kijk je kan doem en verderf preken over de"vijanden van het bloedend zwaard van de prachtige en immer glorieuze islam" maar jij en ik weten, dat jij de rest van je leven waarschijnlijk een
      marginaal bestaan zal leiden. en dan ben je 70, en dan zit je daar "met het almachtige leger van miljoenen moslims zullen wij dit en dat en zus en zo" and nobody will care for a confused old man.

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      lol victory intellectuele aardappel.

      in de torah staat geen verbod op de vestiging van de staat israel, er staat de het ware israel wordt gesticht door de messias
      OP PRECIES HETZELFDE STUK LAND!

      knap trouwens dat je zo'n inhoudelijk weerwoord hebt op deze historische gebeurtenissen.
      kijk je kan doem en verderf preken over de"vijanden van het bloedend zwaard van de prachtige en immer glorieuze islam" maar jij en ik weten, dat jij de rest van je leven waarschijnlijk een
      marginaal bestaan zal leiden. en dan ben je 70, en dan zit je daar "met het almachtige leger van miljoenen moslims zullen wij dit en dat en zus en zo" and nobody will care for a confused old man.
      LOL. Victory, je bent net zo'n speeltje in de handen van MD als Yehi en Dienna vandaag voor mij waren.

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      Ik zal maar eerlijk uit de kast komen,wat ik wens en naar streef is een Khilafah en dat dan alle uit joden filistine vertrekken goedschiks of kwaadschiks.Waar ze heen gaan vullen ze zelf maar in,een goed voorstel is dat amerika ze ophaald en vestigd ergens omdat zij hen ook daar gebracht hebben.

      Meneer Magden David heb je weleens de geschiedenis van de joden van Andalusie die naar het Ottomaanse rijk mochten komen gelezen,of is dit een Islam fabel?
      Ik heb een hekel aan joden ja,maar dat wil niet zeggen dat dit voor alle moslims geld,ik hoef niet sympathiek over te komen,het is beter om eerlijk te zijn.
      Maar de Islam zegt echt niet zoiets als roei de joden uit,of onderdruk ze,dat heb je toch echt verkeerd begrepen of wil je het niet zien en begrijpen?
      Kan ook natuurlijk.

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      victoryMaybe.... Maybe not... ik mis in ieder geval de kennis niet om enorme schade aan te richten als ik dat nu zou willen.... hint... kijk eens naar de leuke dingen die je op de internet allemaal wel niet kan leren..... bovendien heb zo een paar contacten waar ik aan het een en ander kan komen.... maargoed... we zien wel...
      oooeeee gevaarlijke jongen ben jij dus !!!!
      moet ik voor uitkijken !!!
      islam is vrede he victory ?
      jouw islam is niets anders dan straat terreur en verklaart het aantal criminele jongeren in die specifieke categorie.
      mensen zoals jij zorgen ervoor dat de isalm als een achterlijke religie ovekromt.

      nou weet ik ook waarom zoveel moslims die hun geloof belijden zoals JIJ dat doet met terreur bezig zijn, het ontbreekt ze aan de capaciteit om anders met de wereld om te gaan. Ze kunnen niet argumenteren, ze kunnen niet discussieren ze kunnen enkel bedreigen, vernielen en opblazen. eigenlijk een beetje zielig dus.

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